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strong disagree, at least for the US. The whole fabric/culture of the country is predicated on immigration and has been literally since its founding.

by tmh79 7y ago

lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
>The whole fabric/culture of the country is predicated on immigration and has been literally since its founding And look how much trouble diversity has caused. It's literally tearing the fabric of the country apart. Compare that to Finland where things are much more smooth. As much as people tout the benefits of diversity (great food) they hate to point at the detriments: decrease social trust, friction (look at how people view the criminal justice system, affirmative action, etc), also people vote along racial lines (non-whites vote overwhelming democrat and whites vote republican), certain races commit more crimes (blacks and hispanics commit more crimes than whites and asians). All of this could be avoided if the society lacked diversity. You mention any of this and people lose their minds and you lose your job. Luckily no one can touch me since I run my own company and I live in Nigeria so it doesn't matter (tiblar.com). Even in my own country look at what diversity has caused. There's so many ethnic groups conflicting with each other. Or look at what diversity did in Iraq since the British drew arbitrary borders.
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- aaomidi 7y ago
  It's not tearing the country's fabric apart. Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. Let's not blame austerity measures on immigration - govts around the world have been reducing taxes and decreasing social spending - which has been tearing the world apart. Cultures don't clash, economies do - you just need to plan your economy for a changing world and a changing population.
  - lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
    >Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. people always say it benefits them but they fail to mention what it benefits. The top 1% that get cheap labor? The food? I'm sure the 1,400+ children that were raped in Rotherham alone really appreciate your multi-culturalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
    - aaomidi 7y ago
      I mean, you clearly have an agenda here and a discussion on HN isn't going to help. Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. You bring a good point though, the 1% and cheap labor. There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard (housing, food, transportation, computer & phone, education, healthcare) to all people living in your country. With these, immigrant and native populations won't need to depend on the 1% to survive, and will be able to create businesses, more jobs, more innovation. So yes, you've properly identified the problem, but not the solution.
      - lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
        >you clearly have an agenda here and so do you, you clearly support multi-culturalism, why else would you downvote me and reply? Everyone has an agenda or something they believe in. >Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. It's undeniable that all the people that were arrested in the rape scandal were not of British origin. Look at their mugshots. If they were not in the UK the little girls would not have been raped. >There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great.
        standardUser 7y ago

strong disagree, at least for the US. The whole fabric/culture of the country is predicated on immigration and has been literally since its founding.

by tmh79 7y ago

strong disagree, at least for the US. The whole fabric/culture of the country is predicated on immigration and has been literally since its founding.

lowiqprogrammer 7y ago

>The whole fabric/culture of the country is predicated on immigration and has been literally since its founding And look how much trouble diversity has caused. It's literally tearing the fabric of the country apart. Compare that to Finland where things are much more smooth. As much as people tout the benefits of diversity (great food) they hate to point at the detriments: decrease social trust, friction (look at how people view the criminal justice system, affirmative action, etc), also people vote along racial lines (non-whites vote overwhelming democrat and whites vote republican), certain races commit more crimes (blacks and hispanics commit more crimes than whites and asians). All of this could be avoided if the society lacked diversity. You mention any of this and people lose their minds and you lose your job. Luckily no one can touch me since I run my own company and I live in Nigeria so it doesn't matter (tiblar.com). Even in my own country look at what diversity has caused. There's so many ethnic groups conflicting with each other. Or look at what diversity did in Iraq since the British drew arbitrary borders.

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aaomidi 7y ago
It's not tearing the country's fabric apart. Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. Let's not blame austerity measures on immigration - govts around the world have been reducing taxes and decreasing social spending - which has been tearing the world apart. Cultures don't clash, economies do - you just need to plan your economy for a changing world and a changing population.
- lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
  >Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. people always say it benefits them but they fail to mention what it benefits. The top 1% that get cheap labor? The food? I'm sure the 1,400+ children that were raped in Rotherham alone really appreciate your multi-culturalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
  - aaomidi 7y ago
    I mean, you clearly have an agenda here and a discussion on HN isn't going to help. Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. You bring a good point though, the 1% and cheap labor. There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard (housing, food, transportation, computer & phone, education, healthcare) to all people living in your country. With these, immigrant and native populations won't need to depend on the 1% to survive, and will be able to create businesses, more jobs, more innovation. So yes, you've properly identified the problem, but not the solution.
    - lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
      >you clearly have an agenda here and so do you, you clearly support multi-culturalism, why else would you downvote me and reply? Everyone has an agenda or something they believe in. >Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. It's undeniable that all the people that were arrested in the rape scandal were not of British origin. Look at their mugshots. If they were not in the UK the little girls would not have been raped. >There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great.
      - standardUser 7y ago