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Luckily, whether you consider something racist or not has no actual impact on the usage of the term. And of course, you’re free to call a speeder an “illegal” i

Luckily, whether you consider something racist or not has no actual impact on the usage of the term. And of course, you’re free to call a speeder an “illegal” if you want, just like apparently you’re free to call other HN users racist for using common terminology in a way you don’t like.

house9-2 7y ago
> whether you consider something racist or not has no actual impact on the usage of the term Thats true > for using common terminology in a way you don’t like. When did it become common terminology? I am 47 years old and don't remember that term ever being used until the last presidential election as a means to vilify people of color. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention the other 44 years?
- malvosenior 7y ago
  I'm about your age and that term has been used as long as I've been alive.
  - house9-2 7y ago
    I guess I should have been paying better attention then
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  - jcims 7y ago
    I'm same and same.
- hnaccy 7y ago
  NPR 2009: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167023 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167... CBS 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xTJ8WCGNU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xTJ8WCGNU Forbes 2015: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/06/05/obamas-immigration-action-means-tax-refunds-for-illegals-says-irs/#5e5ffc021e65 https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/06/05/obamas-im... The Nation 2007: https://www.thenation.com/article/what-america-owes-its-illegals/ https://www.thenation.com/article/what-america-owes-its-ille... NY Times 2015:https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/magazine/the-unwelcome-return-of-illegals.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/magazine/the-unwelcome-re... Brookings Institution 1996: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/why-separate-legal-illegal-immigrants/ https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/why-separate-legal-illega...
- traverseda 7y ago
  It used to be "illegal aliens" I think? That's the shortened form. Unfortunately any word used to describe a population that people don't like will stop being a descriptor and become a slur if it's used long enough.
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dredmorbius 7y ago
I give you Teen Vogue: Why You Shouldn’t Use the Term “Illegals” Not only is it offensive, it's dehumanizing. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-you-shouldnt-use-the-term-illegals https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-you-shouldnt-use-the-ter... Well-cited article with numerous references. Teen Vogue has become quite serious of late.

house9-2 7y ago

> whether you consider something racist or not has no actual impact on the usage of the term Thats true > for using common terminology in a way you don’t like. When did it become common terminology? I am 47 years old and don't remember that term ever being used until the last presidential election as a means to vilify people of color. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention the other 44 years?

malvosenior 7y ago
I'm about your age and that term has been used as long as I've been alive.
- house9-2 7y ago
  I guess I should have been paying better attention then
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- jcims 7y ago
  I'm same and same.
hnaccy 7y ago
NPR 2009: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167023 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167... CBS 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xTJ8WCGNU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xTJ8WCGNU Forbes 2015: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/06/05/obamas-immigration-action-means-tax-refunds-for-illegals-says-irs/#5e5ffc021e65 https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/06/05/obamas-im... The Nation 2007: https://www.thenation.com/article/what-america-owes-its-illegals/ https://www.thenation.com/article/what-america-owes-its-ille... NY Times 2015:https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/magazine/the-unwelcome-return-of-illegals.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/magazine/the-unwelcome-re... Brookings Institution 1996: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/why-separate-legal-illegal-immigrants/ https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/why-separate-legal-illega...
traverseda 7y ago
It used to be "illegal aliens" I think? That's the shortened form. Unfortunately any word used to describe a population that people don't like will stop being a descriptor and become a slur if it's used long enough.

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dredmorbius 7y ago

I give you Teen Vogue: Why You Shouldn’t Use the Term “Illegals” Not only is it offensive, it's dehumanizing. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-you-shouldnt-use-the-term-illegals https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-you-shouldnt-use-the-ter... Well-cited article with numerous references. Teen Vogue has become quite serious of late.