The trick tends to be grounding the conversation in the misdeeds of people to whom the person you're talking feels no affinity. If you're talking to an American

The trick tends to be grounding the conversation in the misdeeds of people to whom the person you're talking feels no affinity. If you're talking to an American, use the current Chinese government or the UK as an example of how face tracking can be abused. Putting an organization that a person has faith in on trial in order to make a political point runs the risks both of getting distracted and of failing to convince in a way that backfires.