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Youtube was way better before it was seen as a way to make a living. People did stuff just because they loved it. Now it's a lot of spam. Every channel const

Youtube was way better before it was seen as a way to make a living. People did stuff just because they loved it. Now it's a lot of spam. Every channel constantly begs for "patrons", sometimes for 2 or more minutes at the beginning of a short video. I can't trust any "creator" to be doing it for any reason other than inserting ads. I paid $10 a month to Youtube to remove ads, and now this is the state of the world. It sucks.

GaryNumanVevo 7y ago
"Begging" for Patreon subscribers should be more than enough of a red flag for the state of Youtube Creators. They're resorting to platforms like Patreon because they have a much clearer estimate for their paychecks, unlike Youtube where your video can be claimed, demonitized, etc and you instantly lose that revenue. This is exactly why content is suffering on the platform, you can't afford to invest money and time into a video which might be taken down by some Copyright bot.
ntSean 7y ago
I’m sorry to hear you hold this view, there is a lot of great content on YouTube when you don’t subscribe to those trying to turn a quick dollar. For example, high quality educational content on YouTube is invaluable and only possible because of the support of their audiences. How YouTube rewards content however, is an issue. Rewarding longer videos, incentivising click bait and prioritising regular upload schedules invite a breed of video that isn’t high quality and ought to be the focus of change.
rdiddly 7y ago
I concur except I would generalize to the entire worldwide web!
YayamiOmate 7y ago
I see a selfcontradiction. If youtube was way to make living creators would even mention crowdfunding systems... Also, maybe I watch different content but I do not see begging, just credits. Technically it's different but essentially the same, making people aware of them. What's so bad abut it? it's like any other sponsor supported content.
kick 7y ago
Patreon is actually a way to lessen reliance on ads. You could have just used an ad blocker and then spread the $120/yr you're giving to YouTube amongst channels you enjoy, and you'd be helping the people making the videos a lot more, while experiencing no less convenience.

GaryNumanVevo 7y ago

"Begging" for Patreon subscribers should be more than enough of a red flag for the state of Youtube Creators. They're resorting to platforms like Patreon because they have a much clearer estimate for their paychecks, unlike Youtube where your video can be claimed, demonitized, etc and you instantly lose that revenue. This is exactly why content is suffering on the platform, you can't afford to invest money and time into a video which might be taken down by some Copyright bot.

ntSean 7y ago

I’m sorry to hear you hold this view, there is a lot of great content on YouTube when you don’t subscribe to those trying to turn a quick dollar. For example, high quality educational content on YouTube is invaluable and only possible because of the support of their audiences. How YouTube rewards content however, is an issue. Rewarding longer videos, incentivising click bait and prioritising regular upload schedules invite a breed of video that isn’t high quality and ought to be the focus of change.

rdiddly 7y ago

I concur except I would generalize to the entire worldwide web!

YayamiOmate 7y ago

I see a selfcontradiction. If youtube was way to make living creators would even mention crowdfunding systems... Also, maybe I watch different content but I do not see begging, just credits. Technically it's different but essentially the same, making people aware of them. What's so bad abut it? it's like any other sponsor supported content.

kick 7y ago

Patreon is actually a way to lessen reliance on ads. You could have just used an ad blocker and then spread the $120/yr you're giving to YouTube amongst channels you enjoy, and you'd be helping the people making the videos a lot more, while experiencing no less convenience.