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Not really surprising tbh. Military vehicles and generators run on diesel, the fumes of which has known links to cancer, especially without any emission contro

Not really surprising tbh. Military vehicles and generators run on diesel, the fumes of which has known links to cancer, especially without any emission controls. Lead in ammunition probably contributes somewhat. Tungsten in training ammo has links to cancer. Stress and lack of proper nutrition probably doesn't help.

Nasrudith 7y ago
I get most of those but I am confused by lack of proper nutrition? That is a new one to me. Sure it is calorie dense and processed but I thought they had all of the vitamins - although infamously insufficient fiber. Also I didn't know training ammo used it - I thought it was mostly used just as an armor piercing metal.
- pazimzadeh 7y ago
  Well there you go: Dietary fiber intake and risk of colorectal cancer and incident and recurrent adenoma in the Prostate, Lung, Colorectal, and Ovarian Cancer Screening Trial https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4588743/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4588743/
AdrianB1 7y ago
Tungsten is not used in training ammo because there is no need of high penetration; it is used in live ammo.
- madengr 7y ago
  It’s used in frangible bullets. If you are in a shoot house, safer to use frangible bullets, but probably not for the dust. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangible_bullet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangible_bullet
Barrin92 7y ago
there's also waste burn pits which have been investigated in particular in relation to pulmonary diseases, but it wouldn't surprise me if it exposes people to carcinogens.
- dx87 7y ago
  Yep, when I was in Iraq there was another base that was found to be throwing all kinds of things in the burn pit that weren't supposed to be in it. Stuff like old mattresses and amputed limbs were being thrown in an open air burn pit, and apparently the pit wasn't very far from sleeping quarters. After that was exposed, they started marking off "Exposed to burning waste" on everyone's medical records, even if they couldn't be sure you had been.
chrisseaton 7y ago
> lack of proper nutrition If there's anyone getting a carefully controlled diet and precisely balanced nutrition, it's soldiers on operations.
- rendaw 7y ago
  I imagine there's a diet controlled to maximize short term physical/mental performance and there's a diet controlled to maximize longevity.

Nasrudith 7y ago

I get most of those but I am confused by lack of proper nutrition? That is a new one to me. Sure it is calorie dense and processed but I thought they had all of the vitamins - although infamously insufficient fiber. Also I didn't know training ammo used it - I thought it was mostly used just as an armor piercing metal.

pazimzadeh 7y ago
Well there you go: Dietary fiber intake and risk of colorectal cancer and incident and recurrent adenoma in the Prostate, Lung, Colorectal, and Ovarian Cancer Screening Trial https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4588743/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4588743/

AdrianB1 7y ago

Tungsten is not used in training ammo because there is no need of high penetration; it is used in live ammo.

madengr 7y ago
It’s used in frangible bullets. If you are in a shoot house, safer to use frangible bullets, but probably not for the dust. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangible_bullet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangible_bullet

Barrin92 7y ago

there's also waste burn pits which have been investigated in particular in relation to pulmonary diseases, but it wouldn't surprise me if it exposes people to carcinogens.

dx87 7y ago
Yep, when I was in Iraq there was another base that was found to be throwing all kinds of things in the burn pit that weren't supposed to be in it. Stuff like old mattresses and amputed limbs were being thrown in an open air burn pit, and apparently the pit wasn't very far from sleeping quarters. After that was exposed, they started marking off "Exposed to burning waste" on everyone's medical records, even if they couldn't be sure you had been.

chrisseaton 7y ago

> lack of proper nutrition If there's anyone getting a carefully controlled diet and precisely balanced nutrition, it's soldiers on operations.

rendaw 7y ago
I imagine there's a diet controlled to maximize short term physical/mental performance and there's a diet controlled to maximize longevity.