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Somewhat related rant. I bought a 5700 after my GTX 970 died and I wanted to play games and do some game programming. I waited to buy it after it had been out
by csdreamer7 7y ago
Somewhat related rant.
I bought a 5700 after my GTX 970 died and I wanted to play games and do some game programming.
I waited to buy it after it had been out for two months and I could get a good 3rd party cooler.
I had to wait another two weeks for support to get into Manjaro (Arch). The 5700 series Navi cards had several dependencies. Mesa 19.2.1 (19.2.0 was not a production release), LLVM 9.0, Linux 5.3, anddddd... a linux-firmware pkg update.
Navi had been out for almost 2.5 months at this point...
Windows 7 just required an AMD Radeon graphics driver to be installed. And, I could install it, justed booted into VESA mode, download it, install, reboot.
Nvidia had been having issues with elements flashing on their closed source Linux drivers. An issue my 970 had in abundance. Which is why I went AMD, better value and I can use proper open source drivers.
Recent AMD hardware support is really pitful for new Linux users. Especially since I usually recommend Ubuntu, which is often using much older mesa and Linux kernels than Arch distros. The 2000 series APU launches were an absolute joke (although Windows users had similar issues).
Windows 10's rolling updates has it's issues (Orange Screenshots). But I recently installed it to my laptop, wifi worked out of box w/o updated. Windows Update complained about Intel drivers not being properly installed when it tried to install, rebooted, everything worked fine as far I could tell.
I bought AMD to support their support of open standards (Freesync) and their open source software contributions (Nvidia didn't open source PhysX until AMD released it's open source equivalent). AMD recently open sourced their AI mage anti-aliasing tech for their cards which were ported to all cards by the community.
AMD needs to do a better job of getting their open source drivers into mesa and the kernel. Intel tries to get their initial support at least a year into the kernel (source Phoronix).
From what I hear, Ubuntu 19.10 didn't update their linux-firmware pkgs for their ISOs so you can't boot with the 5700 series Navi cards with Ubuntu 19.10... let alone for the rumored 5600 mainstream Navi cards coming out soon.
- justinsaccount 7y ago> Somewhat related rant. > I had to wait another two weeks for support This situation is completely unacceptable. I hope you called Manjaro and asked to speak to a manager to get a refund on your free operating system.
- freehunter 7y agoIf you can claim Linux is the equivalent of Windows or macOS and advocate for people using Linux instead of other OSes, you can’t also say “you’re not allowed to complain about it because it didn’t cost anything”. Either it’s comparable or it’s “deal with it’s problems because it’s free”. It can’t be both.
- justinsaccount 7y agoSounds like you are projecting a bit.
- csdreamer7 7y agoWasn't Manjaro's fault. And, if you actually read my post. You would have known I blamed AMD for not properly supporting the card I paid for 2.5 months after launch. Linux is even listed as a supported OS on the box. (Which is awesome btw!)
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago"We want to be taken seriously as a Desktop OS!" "Hey, I have a problem with your product..." "It was FREE! Why are you complaining!?" --Why Linux Desktop will never be a serious contender, part 12.
- pjmlp 7y agoAt the end of the day if you care about those subjects, macOS and Windows are where the fun is. My Asus Netbook, which was bought with GNU/Linux nowadays still doesn't have the same DirectX 11 feature parity level, hand hardware video decoding, that the previous proprietary AMD drivers provided, so is the beauty of the new open source ones. Meanwhile Asus has provided updated DirectX 11 drivers to all Windows generations since Windows 7.