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> the social justice/accuracy concerns Unfortunately there has been a major cultural shift in the national ACLU. They are now largely uninterested in defendin

by nullc 7y ago

> the social justice/accuracy concerns Unfortunately there has been a major cultural shift in the national ACLU. They are now largely uninterested in defending strong sense personal freedom and instead much more interested in social justice. :( (The frown isn't that I think such causes are bad, but only that I don't think that the loss of a strong defense of constitutional free speech is good). If you think I'm exaggerating, you might find this eye opening: https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACLU.pdf https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621AC... I'm not aware of any large organization that is willing to defend deplorable persons and groups like the westborough church trolls for the sake of preserving the same freedoms for everyone, not like the ACLU of old did. I do understand that the social justice oriented activities have been utterly phenomenal for ACLU fundraising, however. Particularly because they achieve significant traction on social media... After all, who really gets all that excited about the ACLU defending some piece-of-crap pedophile? Unglamorous civil rights work just doesn't pay like riding the latest waves.

andyburke 7y ago
Here are just a couple of recent examples that invalidate your claim. They were pretty easy to find: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/aclu-defends-article-linking-taylor-swift-to-white-supremacists https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/aclu-defends-article-l... https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/aclu-free-speech-white-supremacy/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/aclu-free-speech-whi...
- mieseratte 7y ago
  > Here are just a couple of recent examples that invalidate your claim. They were pretty easy to find: These are several years old. Can you find something from the past year? Turnover happens, missions change. From the outside, looks like they've changed.
  - nl 7y ago
    Some in a snowmobile race in Alaska refused to talk to police. They found some excuse to arrest him. ACLU is suing for violation of first amendment: https://www.aclu.org/cases/nieves-v-bartlett-17-1174 https://www.aclu.org/cases/nieves-v-bartlett-17-1174 A guy setup a clothing brand called FUCT. Trademark denied because Brunetti’s application was refused on the ground that FUCT is “scandalous.” In reaching that conclusion the Board also noted that Brunetti’s website and blog contained “anti-social imagery,” was “lacking in taste,” and contained themes of “misogyny” and “extreme nihilism.” https://www.aclu.org/cases/iancu-v-brunetti https://www.aclu.org/cases/iancu-v-brunetti
    - mieseratte 7y ago
      Thank you!
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by nullc 7y ago

andyburke 7y ago

Here are just a couple of recent examples that invalidate your claim. They were pretty easy to find: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/aclu-defends-article-linking-taylor-swift-to-white-supremacists https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/aclu-defends-article-l... https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/aclu-free-speech-white-supremacy/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politics/aclu-free-speech-whi...

mieseratte 7y ago
> Here are just a couple of recent examples that invalidate your claim. They were pretty easy to find: These are several years old. Can you find something from the past year? Turnover happens, missions change. From the outside, looks like they've changed.
- nl 7y ago
  Some in a snowmobile race in Alaska refused to talk to police. They found some excuse to arrest him. ACLU is suing for violation of first amendment: https://www.aclu.org/cases/nieves-v-bartlett-17-1174 https://www.aclu.org/cases/nieves-v-bartlett-17-1174 A guy setup a clothing brand called FUCT. Trademark denied because Brunetti’s application was refused on the ground that FUCT is “scandalous.” In reaching that conclusion the Board also noted that Brunetti’s website and blog contained “anti-social imagery,” was “lacking in taste,” and contained themes of “misogyny” and “extreme nihilism.” https://www.aclu.org/cases/iancu-v-brunetti https://www.aclu.org/cases/iancu-v-brunetti
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    Thank you!

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