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"doesn't use JavaScript" and "can't work without JavaScript" are two separate issues. Google, the most popular page on the internet, doesn't force you to use J

by kick 7y ago

"doesn't use JavaScript" and "can't work without JavaScript" are two separate issues. Google, the most popular page on the internet, doesn't force you to use Javascript.

vthriller 7y ago
> Google ... doesn't force you to use Javascript. About 3 months ago Google became unusable when browsed through w3m: search results are not rendered as links, just as a regular text that can't be followed-through. They clearly assume you always browse with js enabled, I can't think of any other explanation.
- kick 7y ago
  That sounds like a w3m problem. Still works on elinks and links. Actually, I just tried it on w3m. Still works just fine. It must be that whoever compiled your w3m messed up in some way.
  - vthriller 7y ago
    My w3m installation didn't change in the last year or so. I also had opportunity to test this on various machines when needed to google random things in a hurry—it's consistently broken for me. As for reproducability, in just this week I've seen two versions of image search page back and forth, with little visual changes here and there as well as CORS headers that break some bookmarklets that I occasionally use. I guess they're doing some A/B testing, or just roll out changes slowly.
dealpete 7y ago
I did some experiments the other day and found to my surprise that Google has by far the best no-Javascript experience of the major search engines. Duck Duck Go could learn a thing or two from them.
- kick 7y ago
  DuckDuckGo works perfectly without JavaScript; just use https://duckduckgo.com/html https://duckduckgo.com/html or https://duckduckgo.com/lite https://duckduckgo.com/lite.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    I strongly second the lite recommendation. Include "?kd=-1" to disable interstitial redirects on links. Discussed here, with a link to full parameters: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21384425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21384425
    - pmoriarty 7y ago
      They probably meant "&kd=-1" Take a look at the parameter list in the linked page. There's no "fd" in there.
      - dredmorbius 7y ago
        Damnit, yes. I've edited my comment in this thread, posted a reply to the earlier one.
throw1234651234 7y ago
It's also one texbox and button.

by kick 7y ago

"doesn't use JavaScript" and "can't work without JavaScript" are two separate issues. Google, the most popular page on the internet, doesn't force you to use Javascript.

vthriller 7y ago

> Google ... doesn't force you to use Javascript. About 3 months ago Google became unusable when browsed through w3m: search results are not rendered as links, just as a regular text that can't be followed-through. They clearly assume you always browse with js enabled, I can't think of any other explanation.

kick 7y ago
That sounds like a w3m problem. Still works on elinks and links. Actually, I just tried it on w3m. Still works just fine. It must be that whoever compiled your w3m messed up in some way.
- vthriller 7y ago
  My w3m installation didn't change in the last year or so. I also had opportunity to test this on various machines when needed to google random things in a hurry—it's consistently broken for me. As for reproducability, in just this week I've seen two versions of image search page back and forth, with little visual changes here and there as well as CORS headers that break some bookmarklets that I occasionally use. I guess they're doing some A/B testing, or just roll out changes slowly.

dealpete 7y ago

I did some experiments the other day and found to my surprise that Google has by far the best no-Javascript experience of the major search engines. Duck Duck Go could learn a thing or two from them.

kick 7y ago
DuckDuckGo works perfectly without JavaScript; just use https://duckduckgo.com/html https://duckduckgo.com/html or https://duckduckgo.com/lite https://duckduckgo.com/lite.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  I strongly second the lite recommendation. Include "?kd=-1" to disable interstitial redirects on links. Discussed here, with a link to full parameters: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21384425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21384425
  - pmoriarty 7y ago
    They probably meant "&kd=-1" Take a look at the parameter list in the linked page. There's no "fd" in there.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      Damnit, yes. I've edited my comment in this thread, posted a reply to the earlier one.

throw1234651234 7y ago

It's also one texbox and button.