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Trying to understand the opinion being communicated here. People shouldn't protest things they disagree with? People have a duty to be loyal to their employer's

Trying to understand the opinion being communicated here. People shouldn't protest things they disagree with? People have a duty to be loyal to their employer's every decision?

CydeWeys 7y ago
Yet, strangely, these people curiously will often protest loudly about things they personally disagree with, rather than taking their own advice of shutting up and leaving. It's really about disagreeing with the views being espoused by the employees in question, not their methodology.
- detcader 7y ago
  I think people just don't often get the chance to think about what principle or virtue first impulse drives them to say one thing or another when an issue comes up. I think it's a strong and productive to prompt ourselves/others to put those into words...
- cujo 7y ago
  > Yet, strangely, these people curiously will often ... I don't think you have any data to back that up. I could just as easily see a lot of these people deferring to the "wisdom" of management. I think the number of people who have left jobs when confronted with an ethical problem from their employer is quite small.
- rpmisms 7y ago
  I've done it, several times.
rpmisms 7y ago
No, people should leave situations they're uncomfortable with. Vote with your feet.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  Flight is an option. Fight's the other one. It really depends on whether you have more power to enact change by taking blood out of the system or diverting where it's pumped.
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  Why should they give up and run away instead of staying and fighting? Why is the former better than the latter? Personally I prefer to tackle challenges head-on rather than giving up.
- detcader 7y ago
  To be fair this is a natural philosophical position to take in a country founded after a bunch of people left some tea crates where they were on a ship and just moved to another empire's colony

Trying to understand the opinion being communicated here. People shouldn't protest things they disagree with? People have a duty to be loyal to their employer's every decision?

CydeWeys 7y ago

Yet, strangely, these people curiously will often protest loudly about things they personally disagree with, rather than taking their own advice of shutting up and leaving. It's really about disagreeing with the views being espoused by the employees in question, not their methodology.

detcader 7y ago
I think people just don't often get the chance to think about what principle or virtue first impulse drives them to say one thing or another when an issue comes up. I think it's a strong and productive to prompt ourselves/others to put those into words...
cujo 7y ago
> Yet, strangely, these people curiously will often ... I don't think you have any data to back that up. I could just as easily see a lot of these people deferring to the "wisdom" of management. I think the number of people who have left jobs when confronted with an ethical problem from their employer is quite small.
rpmisms 7y ago
I've done it, several times.

rpmisms 7y ago

No, people should leave situations they're uncomfortable with. Vote with your feet.

shadowgovt 7y ago
Flight is an option. Fight's the other one. It really depends on whether you have more power to enact change by taking blood out of the system or diverting where it's pumped.
CydeWeys 7y ago
Why should they give up and run away instead of staying and fighting? Why is the former better than the latter? Personally I prefer to tackle challenges head-on rather than giving up.
detcader 7y ago
To be fair this is a natural philosophical position to take in a country founded after a bunch of people left some tea crates where they were on a ship and just moved to another empire's colony