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TLDR; The cost of a bad hire is extremely high and not worth the risk. I'm a team lead and do a fair number of interviews. It's amazing how many people can tal
by tenpoundhammer 7y ago
TLDR; The cost of a bad hire is extremely high and not worth the risk.
I'm a team lead and do a fair number of interviews. It's amazing how many people can talk about their experience and make a ton of really impressive statements that makes it appear as though they are knowledgeable and then that person can't perform a simple coding exercise. On the other hand, it's equally amazing how a person can do an excellent job coding but not be able to get through basic day to day human interactions with their peers.
If a candidate falls into either of these camps, they are an easy no hire. If a hiring manager ends up hiring a candidate that is difficult to work with either because they can't code or because they have poor social skills, it can be very costly. It often takes several months to find out that you made a bad hire. By the time you figure it out it's often taken a large toll on the team and can lead to productive team members leaving.
When you finally find out that you've got a problem most companies have a huge process to go through for firing that person and that process is super intensive and takes months. Not to mention how emotionally difficult it is to tell someone they are so bad they have to be fired.
All that to say, the cost benefit analysis is clear only hire people that will over time be a net gain. Don’t take any risks ever.
If I were a recently graduated software engineer, I would be hedging against these risks in every way. I would produce a lot of code in the area I’m seeking to be hired. I would work a lot on being friendly and carefully choosing my words, so I don’t sound like a know it all or a person who enjoys conflict. I would prepare statements about my goals of how I fully intend to spend at least 3 years at this job if conditions allow, and I would practice being humble.
No one actually expects you to spend the next 3 years at a job if it’s not going well, you just need a way to express that if it’s a good fit you intend to stay put and do a great work. 3 years is just an arbitrary number.
- melvinroest 7y agoThat clears a couple of things up: 1. I understand the conservatism now. Just imagining emotionally drained people feels a bit exhausting. 2. The strategy you outline makes a lot of sense. They all follow the principle: don't be a risk, and don't come across as one either. If you are a risk, then de-risk yourself.
- tenpoundhammer 7y agoI've been wanting to coach folks looking to find a job for a long time. I would love to help you out with this at no cost of course. :) i5htij+7j7md3ohoms1c@sharklasers.com temp email address
- melvinroest 7y agoEmail sent
- tenpoundhammer 7y agoWhy the down vote?
- melvinroest 7y agoFWIW: I gave you an upvote.
- Roboprog 7y agoI wondered that as well. Upvoted, and good food for thought.
- bhl 7y agoDo you find that junior hires are typically inflexible when it comes to personality and or coding skills? Or are we talking about more experienced hires who shouldn’t need as much investment and resources to get up to par. As a college senior who’s terrible at recruiting, I’m confused about employer expectations in this regard.
- tenpoundhammer 7y agoI was referring to the whole range. Skills are much easier to teach than personality improvements, but it's still very resource intensive to train some one with very few skills. Often times we make a conscience decision to hire a junior engineer but expect negative productivity for 3 - 6 months and then very little productivity for the first year or so. For personality traits if someone is setting off red flags that they would cause a lot of conflict and issues it's an easy pass. It's extremely difficult and unreliable to attempt to coach someone into changing their personality. It's also just really emotionally draining for the person that has to do the work. If you would like to get in touch I would be happy to provide some Job hunting coaching free of cost. Send an email to my temp email account i5kjl5+8ydjdw8gaoikw@sharklasers.com