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>Start picketing their house, where they eat, everywhere they go. This sounds so obnoxious and short-sighted. If I own a business that doesn't align with your

>Start picketing their house, where they eat, everywhere they go. This sounds so obnoxious and short-sighted. If I own a business that doesn't align with your values, it's one thing to boycott and protest my business. It's another thing to follow me around to a restaurant, dentist, or park to protest my business decisions. You're disturbing the enjoyment of those places for other people who might have nothing to do with my decisions. I suppose spouses, children and even extended family should have to endure this as well?

vlan0 7y ago
>This sounds so obnoxious and short-sighted. The intent is to be obnoxious. But I'm not seeing how it's short sighted. >If I own a business that doesn't align with your values, it's one thing to boycott and protest my business. It's another thing to follow me around to a restaurant, dentist, or park to protest my business decisions. The size of the organization matters. It's much easier to completely shutdown "Dave's Coffee Shop" after they find out Dave supports the KKK. But to seriously impact a multi-billion dollar company with millions of users would require a large coordinated effort....which is unlikely to occur. So as we've seen in the past, status quo will be maintained. >You're disturbing the enjoyment of those places for other people who might have nothing to do with my decisions. I suppose spouses, children and even extended family should have to endure this as well? If we want results, we must exploit people's weaknesses. You want it to stop? Stop the decisions people are unhappy with. No is forcing these executives to work. Don't like what you're being subjected, and you don't have the power to change it? Then quit!
- wanderer2323 7y ago
  It's short-sighted because breaking of mos maiorum for YOUR immediate political gains is how you legitimize the actions of the psychopaths who will break it further for THEIR gains 10 years down the line. Eventually this process gets you to the Saturninuses of your world and the streets run with blood. You, who did not appreciate history, has just repeated it.
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bcrosby95 7y ago
Depends. Do the ramifications of your business values follow me around to a restaurant, dentist, or park? Do they affect my family? If yes then yeah, people should be able to ensure the ramifications of them follow you there too.
- noxToken 7y ago
  My point is that everyone else, even people who aren't related to me, are now paying the price too. Take the park example. A group is protesting against my business decisions, so they follow me to the park where I run at 6 every evening. All the other park patrons now have to endure with your protest even though my business has nothing to do with my run at this park. Or the patrons at a restaurant. Or at a sports/concert venue. You might be protesting me to change my business decision, but other patrons are the collateral damage caught in the cross fire. You might be suffering for what I have done. Why do these other people who are away from my place of work have to as well?
  - vlan0 7y ago
    >My point is that everyone else, even people who aren't related to me, are now paying the price too. Right, but when people picket outside of a building or march down the street in protest....are bystanders there not suffering the same fate? Why is that not acceptable only when it's directed at a person? Do you think picketing outside of a large corporate building has much effect other than an attempt to raise awareness to others?

vlan0 7y ago

>This sounds so obnoxious and short-sighted. The intent is to be obnoxious. But I'm not seeing how it's short sighted. >If I own a business that doesn't align with your values, it's one thing to boycott and protest my business. It's another thing to follow me around to a restaurant, dentist, or park to protest my business decisions. The size of the organization matters. It's much easier to completely shutdown "Dave's Coffee Shop" after they find out Dave supports the KKK. But to seriously impact a multi-billion dollar company with millions of users would require a large coordinated effort....which is unlikely to occur. So as we've seen in the past, status quo will be maintained. >You're disturbing the enjoyment of those places for other people who might have nothing to do with my decisions. I suppose spouses, children and even extended family should have to endure this as well? If we want results, we must exploit people's weaknesses. You want it to stop? Stop the decisions people are unhappy with. No is forcing these executives to work. Don't like what you're being subjected, and you don't have the power to change it? Then quit!

wanderer2323 7y ago
It's short-sighted because breaking of mos maiorum for YOUR immediate political gains is how you legitimize the actions of the psychopaths who will break it further for THEIR gains 10 years down the line. Eventually this process gets you to the Saturninuses of your world and the streets run with blood. You, who did not appreciate history, has just repeated it.

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bcrosby95 7y ago

Depends. Do the ramifications of your business values follow me around to a restaurant, dentist, or park? Do they affect my family? If yes then yeah, people should be able to ensure the ramifications of them follow you there too.

noxToken 7y ago
My point is that everyone else, even people who aren't related to me, are now paying the price too. Take the park example. A group is protesting against my business decisions, so they follow me to the park where I run at 6 every evening. All the other park patrons now have to endure with your protest even though my business has nothing to do with my run at this park. Or the patrons at a restaurant. Or at a sports/concert venue. You might be protesting me to change my business decision, but other patrons are the collateral damage caught in the cross fire. You might be suffering for what I have done. Why do these other people who are away from my place of work have to as well?
- vlan0 7y ago
  >My point is that everyone else, even people who aren't related to me, are now paying the price too. Right, but when people picket outside of a building or march down the street in protest....are bystanders there not suffering the same fate? Why is that not acceptable only when it's directed at a person? Do you think picketing outside of a large corporate building has much effect other than an attempt to raise awareness to others?