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I'm not really sure what group they're catering to here. Everyone who is at least 12 years old knows what those emoji mean. My guess is they must be doing this

by warent 7y ago

I'm not really sure what group they're catering to here. Everyone who is at least 12 years old knows what those emoji mean. My guess is they must be doing this in order to help protect women from sexual harassment. What they're really doing here is trying to ban an entire way of thinking. That's just not going to happen.

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chmod775 7y ago
> I'm not really sure what group they're catering to here. My best bet is a certain generation of people in the US who grew up shielded and learning to react with outrage and emotional breakdowns to absolutely anything outside their narrow comfort zone. Not even their children, who grew up with access to the internet and thus unfiltered humanity, can take them serious on these issues. But I guess it makes someone happy and it's too late to change some people anyways. This restriction doesn't really impair anyone fundamental rights and it's a minor annoyance at worst. What gives? > My guess is they must be doing this in order to help protect women from sexual harassment. This is a possibility. Somehow I doubt this will make any difference though. You don't stop creeps by taking away a random thing when there's millions of other ways.
pentae 7y ago
I'd say the group of people at the iOS App review board.
fortran77 7y ago
It would make sense to respond to a complaint for a direct message that contained these emojis.
- warent 7y ago
  For starters, the issue isn't remotely as rampant for men as it is for women who routinely (i.e. multiple times a day) receive unsolicited sexual advances offline and online in the form of dick pics. It's also much easier for a man to physically take advantage of a woman than vice versa, so women would naturally feel much more threatened by this behavior. Men's inboxes just aren't constantly getting filled with unsolicited nudes, and those that are received rarely cause men to feel concerned that it could lead to real aggravated sexual assault.
  - zaccus 7y ago
    Oh well, if men can suck it up and deal with it then women can too I suppose.
  - ryanmercer 7y ago
    Unslicited 'dick picks' are now a crime in Texas, I imagine other states will adopt similar laws too. >Men's inboxes just aren't constantly getting filled with unsolicited nudes, and those that are received rarely cause men to feel concerned that it could lead to real aggravated sexual assault. I have several drag queen friends and friends that work/perform in gay clubs, simply commenting on their posts causes me to get 1-2 unsolicited dick picks (or worse, spread cheeks for example) a month on average from friends of theirs or people that simply follow them. I am not gay, I am not interested in penises, I did not ask for them. I report every single one.
- warent 7y ago
  You edited your comment after I replied, so now my reply doesn't make sense. It's common practice in HN to note when you make an edit.
giarc 7y ago
I wonder if it is also to prevent solicitation of sex on their platform. I wonder if there was a code of emojis used to agree on terms. Which banning the use of these emojis just means they use something else. Whack a mole.
- journalctl 7y ago
  People have been subverting language for about as long as there has been language. It’s incredibly difficult to police and a losing battle anyway. There are infinite possibilities for encoding other meanings into words, and if two or more people agree out-of-band to use covert communication, you can’t really stop them short of preventing all communication entirely.
  - dmix 7y ago
    There will be 2 new emojis soon enough.

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chmod775 7y ago

> I'm not really sure what group they're catering to here. My best bet is a certain generation of people in the US who grew up shielded and learning to react with outrage and emotional breakdowns to absolutely anything outside their narrow comfort zone. Not even their children, who grew up with access to the internet and thus unfiltered humanity, can take them serious on these issues. But I guess it makes someone happy and it's too late to change some people anyways. This restriction doesn't really impair anyone fundamental rights and it's a minor annoyance at worst. What gives? > My guess is they must be doing this in order to help protect women from sexual harassment. This is a possibility. Somehow I doubt this will make any difference though. You don't stop creeps by taking away a random thing when there's millions of other ways.

pentae 7y ago

I'd say the group of people at the iOS App review board.

fortran77 7y ago

It would make sense to respond to a complaint for a direct message that contained these emojis.

warent 7y ago
For starters, the issue isn't remotely as rampant for men as it is for women who routinely (i.e. multiple times a day) receive unsolicited sexual advances offline and online in the form of dick pics. It's also much easier for a man to physically take advantage of a woman than vice versa, so women would naturally feel much more threatened by this behavior. Men's inboxes just aren't constantly getting filled with unsolicited nudes, and those that are received rarely cause men to feel concerned that it could lead to real aggravated sexual assault.
- zaccus 7y ago
  Oh well, if men can suck it up and deal with it then women can too I suppose.
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  Unslicited 'dick picks' are now a crime in Texas, I imagine other states will adopt similar laws too. >Men's inboxes just aren't constantly getting filled with unsolicited nudes, and those that are received rarely cause men to feel concerned that it could lead to real aggravated sexual assault. I have several drag queen friends and friends that work/perform in gay clubs, simply commenting on their posts causes me to get 1-2 unsolicited dick picks (or worse, spread cheeks for example) a month on average from friends of theirs or people that simply follow them. I am not gay, I am not interested in penises, I did not ask for them. I report every single one.
warent 7y ago
You edited your comment after I replied, so now my reply doesn't make sense. It's common practice in HN to note when you make an edit.

giarc 7y ago

I wonder if it is also to prevent solicitation of sex on their platform. I wonder if there was a code of emojis used to agree on terms. Which banning the use of these emojis just means they use something else. Whack a mole.

journalctl 7y ago
People have been subverting language for about as long as there has been language. It’s incredibly difficult to police and a losing battle anyway. There are infinite possibilities for encoding other meanings into words, and if two or more people agree out-of-band to use covert communication, you can’t really stop them short of preventing all communication entirely.
- dmix 7y ago
  There will be 2 new emojis soon enough.