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If you apply this consistently, you should also be sure that Brexiteers, the yellow vest protestors, and the Catalonian independent movement show that European

by knzhou 7y ago

If you apply this consistently, you should also be sure that Brexiteers, the yellow vest protestors, and the Catalonian independent movement show that European government is fucked. (If you do, I respect that, but if you don't, consider why you think some mass anti-government protests are more sympathetic than others.)

FussyZeus 7y ago
Are you asserting Brexit isn't a massive failure of the British Government? They punted a critical and complex problem to the citizenry, and then advertised outright lies as benefits, and even many British people now recognize they were in no position to make a meaningful judgement of that issue and vote on it. I don't know what the yellow vest protest is. Catalonian independence is something I agree with. They've been exploited extremely hard by Spain more or less since they lost their autonomy.
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>you should also be sure that Brexiteers, the yellow vest protestors, and the Catalonian independent movement show that European government is fucked. That's exactly what they show. Whether these groups favored solutions to the fuck-ness are the correct solutions totally tangential to that. When people take to the streets something ain't right.
- FussyZeus 7y ago
  > Whether these groups favored solutions to the fuck-ness are the correct solutions totally tangential to that. When people take to the streets something ain't right. This, exactly. It takes a lot to get people to resort to civil unrest. I wish it was respected as being that, the last resort of a populace losing faith in it's leadership, and not derided as it is so often as just people who disagree with something. Protests should be a sign of not just disagreement but profound disgust not just for what is being done, but for the processes and the system that permitted it to happen in the first place.
celticmusic 7y ago
Are you implying that brexit protesters were in being injured and/or killed by the police?

by knzhou 7y ago

FussyZeus 7y ago

Are you asserting Brexit isn't a massive failure of the British Government? They punted a critical and complex problem to the citizenry, and then advertised outright lies as benefits, and even many British people now recognize they were in no position to make a meaningful judgement of that issue and vote on it. I don't know what the yellow vest protest is. Catalonian independence is something I agree with. They've been exploited extremely hard by Spain more or less since they lost their autonomy.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>you should also be sure that Brexiteers, the yellow vest protestors, and the Catalonian independent movement show that European government is fucked. That's exactly what they show. Whether these groups favored solutions to the fuck-ness are the correct solutions totally tangential to that. When people take to the streets something ain't right.

FussyZeus 7y ago
> Whether these groups favored solutions to the fuck-ness are the correct solutions totally tangential to that. When people take to the streets something ain't right. This, exactly. It takes a lot to get people to resort to civil unrest. I wish it was respected as being that, the last resort of a populace losing faith in it's leadership, and not derided as it is so often as just people who disagree with something. Protests should be a sign of not just disagreement but profound disgust not just for what is being done, but for the processes and the system that permitted it to happen in the first place.

celticmusic 7y ago

Are you implying that brexit protesters were in being injured and/or killed by the police?