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right, but for any parent to do that editing by themselves is a monumental task. If the mormons: 1. bought an original copy of each film 2. added an edited DV

right, but for any parent to do that editing by themselves is a monumental task. If the mormons: 1. bought an original copy of each film 2. added an edited DVD to each box 3. re-sold the box with both DVDs That would seem ethical to me, and abiding by reasonable copyright laws. Their right to remix (even if in somewhat boring ways) should be important.

BjoernKW 7y ago
That's just the financial side of things. They'd still be tampering with the original piece of content, which most likely isn't what the artist would've wanted. Then there's the question of if it's really ethical to want to consume content that at least partially is against your moral values. I completely concur with parents' desire to protect their children. However, if it's about adults finding content morally objectionable the actual ethical choice is to simply not watch that content.
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- jhanschoo 7y ago
  I disagree with the parent comment (see my reply), but this isn't correct either. > That's just the financial side of things. They'd still be tampering with the original piece of content, which most likely isn't what the artist would've wanted. It's culturally important that people are allowed to transform creative works in ways that the author/artist didn't intend or want. Hence parody is allowed. If I were to redact parts of a book I bought in a store and resell that book, it would be legal. It can also even be ethical. The problem with CleanFlicks is that they made their own DVD copy to contain copied, edited video of the original film. It's a copy, and hence infringes copyright.
jhanschoo 7y ago
> added an edited DVD to each box The edited DVD is a copy of the original DVD. That is copyright infringement. > Their right to remix (even if in somewhat boring ways) should be important. This isn't a remix. A remix should desire to completely change the creative expression of the original into a new creative expression. The edits seek to preserve as much of the creative expression as possible (as much as that does not cross over certain fixed (hence unoriginal) rules). I don't think a reasonable person will think that this is transformative.

BjoernKW 7y ago

That's just the financial side of things. They'd still be tampering with the original piece of content, which most likely isn't what the artist would've wanted. Then there's the question of if it's really ethical to want to consume content that at least partially is against your moral values. I completely concur with parents' desire to protect their children. However, if it's about adults finding content morally objectionable the actual ethical choice is to simply not watch that content.

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jhanschoo 7y ago
I disagree with the parent comment (see my reply), but this isn't correct either. > That's just the financial side of things. They'd still be tampering with the original piece of content, which most likely isn't what the artist would've wanted. It's culturally important that people are allowed to transform creative works in ways that the author/artist didn't intend or want. Hence parody is allowed. If I were to redact parts of a book I bought in a store and resell that book, it would be legal. It can also even be ethical. The problem with CleanFlicks is that they made their own DVD copy to contain copied, edited video of the original film. It's a copy, and hence infringes copyright.

jhanschoo 7y ago

> added an edited DVD to each box The edited DVD is a copy of the original DVD. That is copyright infringement. > Their right to remix (even if in somewhat boring ways) should be important. This isn't a remix. A remix should desire to completely change the creative expression of the original into a new creative expression. The edits seek to preserve as much of the creative expression as possible (as much as that does not cross over certain fixed (hence unoriginal) rules). I don't think a reasonable person will think that this is transformative.