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The article isn't going deep enough in the details. > In summer 2018, Puigneró said Catalonia must create "a digital nation in the form of a republic" ahead of

The article isn't going deep enough in the details. > In summer 2018, Puigneró said Catalonia must create "a digital nation in the form of a republic" ahead of implementing the Catalan Republic in "physical form." By allowing Catalonian citizens or Catalonian administration to host data outside the EU ? How does that create a digital nation when your limbs are all over the world in an ethereal form ? I don't understand what's going on.

insomniacity 7y ago
You're right that the article is lacking. I suspect the idea is to have digital infrastructure out of legal reach of the Spanish government - then that's your foundation for the physical changes.
coldtea 7y ago
It's not about where the data are, but which organization is hosting them and for what purpose. If one wanted to make a "digital freedonia" they could start a service called "freedonia citizens registry" for example, and have people register there, coordinate, talk, etc -- whether the server was in Japan or Argentina or California wouldn't matter much for those purposes... The "host outside" part is so that the Spanish government can't just get access to it or storm the datacenter. Otherwise the location is not important as to the purpose.
- yiyus 7y ago
  The location is important if it involves data from the public administration. Nobody can avoid that "freedonia citizens registry" you talk about, but the regional government cannot take official census data and use it to fill Fredonia's database.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >Nobody can avoid that "freedonia citizens registry" you talk about, but the regional government cannot take official census data and use it to fill Fredonia's database. What's stopping them? (besides a jurisdiction they don't recognize and want to secede from)?
buboard 7y ago
Presumably they d need a way to verifiably conduct elections online. If they could show that they were fair and inclusive, i think it s fair to say that the people have spoken and ancillary constitutional contracts don’t last forever

insomniacity 7y ago

You're right that the article is lacking. I suspect the idea is to have digital infrastructure out of legal reach of the Spanish government - then that's your foundation for the physical changes.

coldtea 7y ago

It's not about where the data are, but which organization is hosting them and for what purpose. If one wanted to make a "digital freedonia" they could start a service called "freedonia citizens registry" for example, and have people register there, coordinate, talk, etc -- whether the server was in Japan or Argentina or California wouldn't matter much for those purposes... The "host outside" part is so that the Spanish government can't just get access to it or storm the datacenter. Otherwise the location is not important as to the purpose.

yiyus 7y ago
The location is important if it involves data from the public administration. Nobody can avoid that "freedonia citizens registry" you talk about, but the regional government cannot take official census data and use it to fill Fredonia's database.
- coldtea 7y ago
  >Nobody can avoid that "freedonia citizens registry" you talk about, but the regional government cannot take official census data and use it to fill Fredonia's database. What's stopping them? (besides a jurisdiction they don't recognize and want to secede from)?

buboard 7y ago

Presumably they d need a way to verifiably conduct elections online. If they could show that they were fair and inclusive, i think it s fair to say that the people have spoken and ancillary constitutional contracts don’t last forever