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Do you eat meat at all? If so, how were the animals raised, slaughtered and processed? This ban seems rather hypocritical to me given the atrocities happening
by CaptainZapp 7y ago
Do you eat meat at all? If so, how were the animals raised, slaughtered and processed?
This ban seems rather hypocritical to me given the atrocities happening in mass meat production.
While there are absolutely terrible things happening in Foie Gras production (I would never, ever buy any products from Hungary, as a for example) the really good stuff is raised quite humanely.[1]
To me this just looks like an attempt for quick political gain without any advantage to any factory raised animal (which, for the record, I regard as one of our biggest moral failings as humans).
[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2010/11/ethical-foie-gras-no-force-feeding-necessary/66261/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2010/11/ethical-f...
- praptak 7y agoIt's just a step in the right direction.
- asjw 7y agoWhat is the right direction? Right by which metric?
- erk__ 7y agoRight by the metric of geese getting fed with a pipe is likely to go down, even though it is probably negligible on a worldwide scale.
- praptak 7y agoDecrease in animal suffering. I was referring to GP critique of this move as not big enough.
- nabla9 7y agoAvoid causing pain to sentient beings.
- cies 7y agoLets not forget much lower env impact of eating exclusively in the non-animal kingdoms.
- jeswin 7y ago> Do you eat meat at all? Not anymore; stopped about three years back. It was difficult personally after I became a parent. The rest of my family are meat and fish eaters and I keep out of their preferences. This can only be done in phases. Raise awareness, ban instances of extreme cruelty, support substitutes etc. I'm very optimistic - Impossible burgers and sandwiches are quite close to the real thing and if prices come down (and we have more choices and availability) it could be a guilt-free, and even healthier alternative.
- synt4x1k0 7y agoIt isn't like this is new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy#Statutory_and_voluntary_bans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy#Statutor...
- fulafel 7y agoOne man's hypocrisy is another man's whataboutism.
- 29athrowaway 7y agoEating meat is not the only way to inflict pain on animals. Animal tested products are horrible on animals. For example, they test that a soap or a shampoo doesn't irritate eyes too much by putting a concentrated form of the product on some animal's eye over and over again, sometimes rendering them blind. And that's just the beginning. It's just horrible. Milk doesn't kill cows, but cows can only produce milk after giving birth. You are smart enough to figure out the rest of the story: cows are forced to give birth to calves, the calves are "taken away", and the milk is harvested. The animals get traumatized in the process, crying for days. Chicken eggs should not require us to kill, but in practice if a male chick is born they're often "sacrificed" (often by being ground alive). The survivors spend their lives in a cage.
- mcv 7y agoWe should absolutely also address other atrocities in meat production, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't also address this. Personally I only eat animals I know to have had a decent life, because I don't want to contribute to the torture of animals. But changing the mass meat market is sadly a lot harder than changing the market for such a specialty item. Avoiding restaurants that serve meat is a lot harder than avoiding restaurants that serve foie gras. I hope it's a step in the right direction and we'll create better standards for how we treat animals.