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Public schools in the US and most religious upbringings (not all) teach blind submission and deference to authority. Students who question things too much are d

Public schools in the US and most religious upbringings (not all) teach blind submission and deference to authority. Students who question things too much are deemed troublemakers obstructing the teacher's valuable dictation time. Repeated offenders are referred to a psychiatrist for a ADHD referral and subsequent drugging and parents who object get a DCS referral and their kids rehomed in foster care where they are often then subjected to physical and sexual abuse. It's not surprising that such disadvantaged (public school) students would so be in awe of what they perceive as the unquestionable authority of professors that they would not ask questions as that is what our public school systems (most not all) train students to do - remain silent and memorize the words of wisdom being imparted to you. There will be a test.

tenpies 7y ago
> Public schools in the US and most religious upbringings I would say the school system in general does that. The whole point of the school system is to turn you into a predictable automaton of economic utility. You want to be creative? Do that in your own time or pray you can control your creativity enough to only release it during the designated classes.
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- droithomme 7y ago
  Yes, absolutely. John T. Gatto, John C. Holt, and Alfie Kohn all have very interesting commentary on this issue which is worth the time to engage with and ponder.
- jariel 7y ago
  "The whole point of the school system is to turn you into a predictable automaton of economic utility." No, they are there partly to educate you, partly to babysit you, with the hopes that you can 'get along' in life afterwards, or maybe go to University. Highschool doesn't prepare you for anything specific, certainly not the workforce. In Germany, the education is considerably more focused on moving people into the trades or higher education, which frankly, works very well though it's arguably even more elitist than the US, as fewer kids go to Uni (tend to have richer parents).
jariel 7y ago
I think you may have it backwards: Schools in France for example don't tolerate a lot of fuss. They are old school in most ways - students listen, make notes, teachers are in charge. I'm a North American who did Grad School in Europe and was amazed at how quiet and deferential the students were there. I was considerably more gregarious.

tenpies 7y ago

> Public schools in the US and most religious upbringings I would say the school system in general does that. The whole point of the school system is to turn you into a predictable automaton of economic utility. You want to be creative? Do that in your own time or pray you can control your creativity enough to only release it during the designated classes.

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droithomme 7y ago
Yes, absolutely. John T. Gatto, John C. Holt, and Alfie Kohn all have very interesting commentary on this issue which is worth the time to engage with and ponder.
jariel 7y ago
"The whole point of the school system is to turn you into a predictable automaton of economic utility." No, they are there partly to educate you, partly to babysit you, with the hopes that you can 'get along' in life afterwards, or maybe go to University. Highschool doesn't prepare you for anything specific, certainly not the workforce. In Germany, the education is considerably more focused on moving people into the trades or higher education, which frankly, works very well though it's arguably even more elitist than the US, as fewer kids go to Uni (tend to have richer parents).

jariel 7y ago

I think you may have it backwards: Schools in France for example don't tolerate a lot of fuss. They are old school in most ways - students listen, make notes, teachers are in charge. I'm a North American who did Grad School in Europe and was amazed at how quiet and deferential the students were there. I was considerably more gregarious.