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Major League Soccer is going through this problem now. They prohibit political displays in stadium but are now in the business of deciding whether signs that sa

by jld 7y ago

Major League Soccer is going through this problem now. They prohibit political displays in stadium but are now in the business of deciding whether signs that say things like "anti-racist" or "anti-fascist" or "end gun violence" are political or not, and all of the worms that come out of that can. https://deadspin.com/by-banning-protest-signs-mls-is-trying-to-lobotomize-t-1837410237 https://deadspin.com/by-banning-protest-signs-mls-is-trying-...

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jMyles 7y ago
The Portland Timbers literally use the Cascadia Flag. I mean, it's a joke to imagine that political messages are banned.
lonelappde 7y ago
The difference is that it's easy to have "a private org can set its own logically inconsistent policy" (and every possible policy except "everything is allowed" is logically inconsistent) but impossible to have "we will only allow universally agreed upon good things in this space".
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  The latter turns into "everything is forbidden", which is also logically consistent... but not useful or practical.
colechristensen 7y ago
I wouldn't have a problem with expanding that to include social issues. You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. This is a problem I have with modern social movements, when they fail to get audiences in public spaces they seek out captive audiences or to be disruptive as possible to completely unrelated places. Hold your rally in a park or march down main street or a pedestrian way or in front of some place you're protesting. Stop walking down highways and forcing your messages in places which have nothing to do with your cause.
- RaptorJ 7y ago
  "Please do not bother me with you trying to not get killed by the state anymore."
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    Like a moth to a flame.
  - FridgeSeal 7y ago
    “I’m here for bread and circuses and I’d appreciate it if you kept your uncomfortable reality away from me so I don’t have to confront or think about it”
  - orf 7y ago
    “Look I know your the victim of systematic racism and oppression that’s led you to march, but goddamnit I’m trying to get to Burger King!!”
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- bobthepanda 7y ago
  What is functionally different between "marching down main street" and "walking down highways"? Many places basically have highways as psuedo main streets. It doesn't really seem like MLK's Selma to Montgomery march or Ghandi's Salt March would've passed this smell test.
- yk 7y ago
  So you are saying they should protest were you can easily ignore them?
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  > You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. Absolutely. So let's get rid of advertising at games. Not just political advertising; all advertising. No Democratic or Republican ads, but also no Toyota or Chrysler ads, no Coors or Bud Light ads. Unfortunately, there's too much money at stake for that to ever happen. But political ads are different. I don't think Coors drinkers get offended when they see a Bud Light ad.
dopamean 7y ago
I think fascism is inherently political while racism is not necessarily.
- mieseratte 7y ago
  I’ve been told everything is political, when questioning someone once. So I suppose Twitter will bow block all ads?

by jld 7y ago

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jMyles 7y ago

The Portland Timbers literally use the Cascadia Flag. I mean, it's a joke to imagine that political messages are banned.

lonelappde 7y ago

The difference is that it's easy to have "a private org can set its own logically inconsistent policy" (and every possible policy except "everything is allowed" is logically inconsistent) but impossible to have "we will only allow universally agreed upon good things in this space".

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
The latter turns into "everything is forbidden", which is also logically consistent... but not useful or practical.

colechristensen 7y ago

I wouldn't have a problem with expanding that to include social issues. You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. This is a problem I have with modern social movements, when they fail to get audiences in public spaces they seek out captive audiences or to be disruptive as possible to completely unrelated places. Hold your rally in a park or march down main street or a pedestrian way or in front of some place you're protesting. Stop walking down highways and forcing your messages in places which have nothing to do with your cause.

RaptorJ 7y ago
"Please do not bother me with you trying to not get killed by the state anymore."
- mieseratte 7y ago
  Like a moth to a flame.
- FridgeSeal 7y ago
  “I’m here for bread and circuses and I’d appreciate it if you kept your uncomfortable reality away from me so I don’t have to confront or think about it”
- orf 7y ago
  “Look I know your the victim of systematic racism and oppression that’s led you to march, but goddamnit I’m trying to get to Burger King!!”
- deleted 7y ago
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bobthepanda 7y ago
What is functionally different between "marching down main street" and "walking down highways"? Many places basically have highways as psuedo main streets. It doesn't really seem like MLK's Selma to Montgomery march or Ghandi's Salt March would've passed this smell test.
yk 7y ago
So you are saying they should protest were you can easily ignore them?
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
> You bought a ticket to see a game, not a billboard. Absolutely. So let's get rid of advertising at games. Not just political advertising; all advertising. No Democratic or Republican ads, but also no Toyota or Chrysler ads, no Coors or Bud Light ads. Unfortunately, there's too much money at stake for that to ever happen. But political ads are different. I don't think Coors drinkers get offended when they see a Bud Light ad.

dopamean 7y ago

I think fascism is inherently political while racism is not necessarily.

mieseratte 7y ago
I’ve been told everything is political, when questioning someone once. So I suppose Twitter will bow block all ads?