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Why would you say something like that? Gas levels are monitored using gas sensors and an R-Pi custom monitoring station. There's no camera. I pointed this out.

Why would you say something like that? Gas levels are monitored using gas sensors and an R-Pi custom monitoring station. There's no camera. I pointed this out. Reasonable expectations of privacy prohibit cameras in the bathroom. I contend though they don't prohibit diagnostic fecal cameras. Up cameras bad, down cameras not only good, but excellent and helpful. Safety gas sensors and logging are not illegal under any interpretation of privacy laws. I have every right to monitor dangerous gas levels, humidity and temperature in every room of my house without obtaining consent or notifying any visitor. The people here that have in the past claimed I am a criminal for doing monitoring have yet to make their legal case or as I have asked them to, to file a criminal complaint against me and my system. This is because they are armchair lawyers who have no case and little understanding of the law. They just like to badger innocent people who are not committing any crimes on the internet because that's what these sorts of armchair lawyers and busybodies do.

ceejayoz 7y ago
I think you missed the joke.
retrac 7y ago
Running with the argument for a bit, I'd point out that such analysis reveals considerable biomedical data. Along with timing data on who uses the restroom, invasion of medical privacy would not be very hard.
- droithomme 7y ago
  An old friend and myself have had some extremely heated debates about whether the genomic sequence data his company collects from people and sells to everyone is biomedical data. I say that it is and is covered under HIPAA. He claims that is absurd and unreasonable and that genome sequences are simply not personal private medical data regulated under HIPAA. Many others in these debates have also disagreed with me and rebuked me claiming that even complete genomic data is not covered under HIPAA and is simply not personal medical information. I don't recall ever having a single supporter in my claim that a person's genome is private medical data. Yet perhaps some of these happy to hate on me in the past and denounce my unreasonable opinion that genomes are medical data would now criticize me for monitoring conditions and levels of gases in my own private home as well as that of waste disposed of. Courts have repeatedly ruled that in disposing of cellular materials such as blood and sperm one gives up any rights to privacy. These materials can be collected from trash without a warrant. The reasonable expectation of privacy simply does not apply to things one has thrown away.
  - retrac 7y ago
    > I don't recall ever having a single supporter in my claim that a person's genome is private medical data. Huh. In Canada, that's a settled question. It is, at least with regard to e.g. a medical record that contains genetic information. We're also looking at laws which prohibit discrimination on the basis of genetic information. Though more directly to what you're talking about, I think it is in fact legal for a private citizen to collect discarded biological material from a person and sequence it. A company would be prohibited, however. I am not a lawyer, though. > The reasonable expectation of privacy simply does not apply to things one has thrown away. That can be fixed by statute. While the law is similar here in that items discarded are no longer protected by the constitution regarding search and seizure, statute prohibits a company, for example, from collecting banking information from discarded paperwork in the recycling.

ceejayoz 7y ago

I think you missed the joke.

retrac 7y ago

Running with the argument for a bit, I'd point out that such analysis reveals considerable biomedical data. Along with timing data on who uses the restroom, invasion of medical privacy would not be very hard.

droithomme 7y ago
An old friend and myself have had some extremely heated debates about whether the genomic sequence data his company collects from people and sells to everyone is biomedical data. I say that it is and is covered under HIPAA. He claims that is absurd and unreasonable and that genome sequences are simply not personal private medical data regulated under HIPAA. Many others in these debates have also disagreed with me and rebuked me claiming that even complete genomic data is not covered under HIPAA and is simply not personal medical information. I don't recall ever having a single supporter in my claim that a person's genome is private medical data. Yet perhaps some of these happy to hate on me in the past and denounce my unreasonable opinion that genomes are medical data would now criticize me for monitoring conditions and levels of gases in my own private home as well as that of waste disposed of. Courts have repeatedly ruled that in disposing of cellular materials such as blood and sperm one gives up any rights to privacy. These materials can be collected from trash without a warrant. The reasonable expectation of privacy simply does not apply to things one has thrown away.
- retrac 7y ago
  > I don't recall ever having a single supporter in my claim that a person's genome is private medical data. Huh. In Canada, that's a settled question. It is, at least with regard to e.g. a medical record that contains genetic information. We're also looking at laws which prohibit discrimination on the basis of genetic information. Though more directly to what you're talking about, I think it is in fact legal for a private citizen to collect discarded biological material from a person and sequence it. A company would be prohibited, however. I am not a lawyer, though. > The reasonable expectation of privacy simply does not apply to things one has thrown away. That can be fixed by statute. While the law is similar here in that items discarded are no longer protected by the constitution regarding search and seizure, statute prohibits a company, for example, from collecting banking information from discarded paperwork in the recycling.