Absolutely. Those are not referendums, and the results are not more valid than a survey, if not worse. I was responding to the OP's statement: > We must rem

Absolutely. Those are not referendums, and the results are not more valid than a survey, if not worse. I was responding to the OP's statement: > We must remember that Catalonia has already held two legal referendums, where the result has been a refusal of the Catalan people to leave Spain or Independence.