> I said it was a systematic defect camera based systems share, not that it was intrinsic to camera based systems. And I'm saying that even that is incorrect.

> I said it was a systematic defect camera based systems share, not that it was intrinsic to camera based systems. And I'm saying that even that is incorrect. Here is a Tesla failing to stop: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134987596508143617 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134987596508143617 - The driver clearly noted that aiming for a less clear spot (dangling wires) triggered a stop. Here is another example, in which greentheonly has used root to overlay what the car sees: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1135011184439169024 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1135011184439169024 - It sees the truck but is treating some of the space under it as drivable space. Another view, with more details on what the car considers drivable vs non-drivable: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134490014321131521 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134490014321131521 Also, a clear case where it did stop: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134489977801334784 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1134489977801334784 The Tesla system has limitations around object identification, but absolutely does NOT just filter out non-moving objects.