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I agreed until the disaster that was Jigsaw. Maybe Jigsaw didn't impact you particularly hard, but you can't argue the JVM has a policy of minimal backwards in

• chrisseaton 7y ago
  I work on Java at a really deep level, and I haven't had to interact with Jigsaw at all. What is it breaking for you?
  • brabel 7y ago
    A lot of things like older versions of Gradle (which at some point was a blocker to move to Java 9, but not now), Groovy (also fixed, but still has some warnings), which we use heavily for tests, several reflection-heavy frameworks (think dependency injection, annotation-processors etc), which to this day require some ugly hacks like --patch-module to "open" packages, JUnit tests (which also need the same hacks to work), even the location of resources loaded with class.getResource() had to be modified when modularizing a jar, so that resources go into the proper packages that are visible to the loader... You seriously didn't suffer any of these?
    • chrisseaton 7y ago
      No I didn’t experience any issues like that myself.
• dhash 7y ago
  I’m a full time scala developer and have had basically no problems taking longer than a day to in moving to the LTS releases of 9+. It’s probably pretty helpful that the scala ecosystem doesn’t depend much on non-well trodden parts of the JDK