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This may be very selfish of me but I'd prefer if Github didn't get shut down over some political argument that I'm not a party in. It would also involve Github

This may be very selfish of me but I'd prefer if Github didn't get shut down over some political argument that I'm not a party in. It would also involve Github taking sides in a very divise political issue that is far from black and white.

input_sh 7y ago
What mechanism could a Spanish court use to shut down an American multi-billion dollar company? At worst, it could get GitHub blocked in Spain, or a local Microsoft office might get a stern look or two before Spain renews its Office 365 contract or whatever.
- Karunamon 7y ago
  GitHub being shut down in Spain for ignoring a court order is more harmful than one repo being blocked by a court order, imo. There seems to be this belief in the atmosphere that companies of all sizes should blithely ignore content takedowns when the alternative is large fines or exclusion from a country. This is not a realistic demand and you will be disappointed every time if you maintain it.
- diggan 7y ago
  Interesting but off-topic none-the-less: lots of the regional governments in Spain is using open source software for their offices, like LibreOffice. I know both Valencia and Catalan governments are vocal about using and developing open source software.
- matheusmoreira 7y ago
  A spanish court could order spanish ISPs to block GitHub until they obey their order. They could also charge spanish Microsoft executives with disobedience, contempt or something similar.
  - sneak 7y ago
    > They could also charge spanish Microsoft executives with disobedience, contempt or something similar. Unlikely, as the local executives likely didn't make this decision and don't have control over it. Guilt by association (employer) is not legal, even in Spain.
    - matheusmoreira 7y ago
      Google and Facebook executives operating in my country have been arrested for failing to comply with court orders. https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/26/3413476/google-brazil-you-tube-arrest https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/26/3413476/google-brazil-you... https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-arrested-in-brazil-1456851506 https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-arrested-in-... I wouldn't rule it out regardless of the country involved.
  - armadillu 7y ago
    They have already done that at DNS level. Most ISPs in Spain have configured their DNSs servers to redirect tsunamidemocratic.github.io to 127.0.0.1 https://twitter.com/armadillu/status/1186315453108555778?s=20 https://twitter.com/armadillu/status/1186315453108555778?s=2...

input_sh 7y ago

What mechanism could a Spanish court use to shut down an American multi-billion dollar company? At worst, it could get GitHub blocked in Spain, or a local Microsoft office might get a stern look or two before Spain renews its Office 365 contract or whatever.

Karunamon 7y ago
GitHub being shut down in Spain for ignoring a court order is more harmful than one repo being blocked by a court order, imo. There seems to be this belief in the atmosphere that companies of all sizes should blithely ignore content takedowns when the alternative is large fines or exclusion from a country. This is not a realistic demand and you will be disappointed every time if you maintain it.
diggan 7y ago
Interesting but off-topic none-the-less: lots of the regional governments in Spain is using open source software for their offices, like LibreOffice. I know both Valencia and Catalan governments are vocal about using and developing open source software.
matheusmoreira 7y ago
A spanish court could order spanish ISPs to block GitHub until they obey their order. They could also charge spanish Microsoft executives with disobedience, contempt or something similar.
- sneak 7y ago
  > They could also charge spanish Microsoft executives with disobedience, contempt or something similar. Unlikely, as the local executives likely didn't make this decision and don't have control over it. Guilt by association (employer) is not legal, even in Spain.
  - matheusmoreira 7y ago
    Google and Facebook executives operating in my country have been arrested for failing to comply with court orders. https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/26/3413476/google-brazil-you-tube-arrest https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/26/3413476/google-brazil-you... https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-arrested-in-brazil-1456851506 https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-arrested-in-... I wouldn't rule it out regardless of the country involved.
- armadillu 7y ago
  They have already done that at DNS level. Most ISPs in Spain have configured their DNSs servers to redirect tsunamidemocratic.github.io to 127.0.0.1 https://twitter.com/armadillu/status/1186315453108555778?s=20 https://twitter.com/armadillu/status/1186315453108555778?s=2...