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> That means that all .new domains registrations must: ... I don't get why anyone would want this over a regular domain with which they can do whatever they wa

> That means that all .new domains registrations must: ... I don't get why anyone would want this over a regular domain with which they can do whatever they want with no restrictions. It's just another way for Google to control and have a say over other people's businesses. For sure we'll see again posts about people having had their product destroyed because Google cut them off with no way to appeal.

Already__Taken 7y ago
This is pretty normal, all registras have usage restrictions. Most are poorly enforced but googles reqs seem pretty reasonable, The problem with all registers is you have very little recourse. I quite like gsuite but if your only domain is bought as a google TLD on google domains with your gsuite account via google pay with google voice contact details and gmail contacts. God help you.
- tobltobs 7y ago
  > all registras have usage restrictions. Sure, but I never saw anything as ambiguous as: * Be used for action generation or online content creation; * Take the user directly into the action generation or content creation flow; * Allow Google Registry to verify compliance at no cost. That some AI script with a failure quote of ~2% will verify your compliance wont help also. And the only way to get some human support in those cases is when you manage to get on page 1 of HN with your "crying for help" tweet.
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  - Double_a_92 7y ago
    That still seems pretty reasonable. They want ".new" to be seen and used as an interaction element, not as a random TLD. E.g. if twitter would get one, twitter.new would bring you somewhere where you could directly start typing a new tweet.
    - tobltobs 7y ago
      What about "car.new", where you can buy cars? Would that be enough "action generation"?
      - Already__Taken 7y ago
        tesla.new where you can order directly online, yeh probably. That's I reckon exactly the kind of distinction I think they're going for. ford.new would make me go to a dealer so I think they should be able to never get one.
        tobltobs 7y ago
        But when you can book an appointment at a ford dealer next to you that would be kind of "action generation". Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone?
        Already__Taken 7y ago
        > Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone? Trademark law still exists, this is a solved problem.
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        wolco 7y ago
        Would only apply is the domain is being used with cars. Ford is a common last name.. could be dentist call to action.
    - eloisant 7y ago
      Well, good luck when your app gets flag by their bot, broken because the .new no longer works, and you can't get a hold of Google to remove you from their blacklist. Just read all the horror stories about apps on Google Play.
- mkl 7y ago
  They seem quite different, restrictive, and onerous to me. In particular "registrations must have websites that are both live and compliant within 100 days of registration". You can't register a domain to use later, you have to get something up quickly, something that satisfies Google's vague "action" requirements.
  - account42 7y ago
    That part is actually positive though - if you want to squat a domain for over 100 days too bad.
    - tobltobs 7y ago
      And how is that supposed to work in reality if your project takes more then 100 days to build?
      - ozzmotik 7y ago
        start building it locally and then only buy the domain once it's close to complete?
        tobltobs 7y ago
        What has the "where you built it" to do with the domain name?
apacheCamel 7y ago
I am pretty new to this space and I have a couple domains registered for some site ideas I would like to pursue in the future. Do all non-.com domains have these kind of restrictions? I thought they were always recommendations? How and why would Google ever think it is cool to restrict how I use a domain, other than the obvious illegal activities I guess?
Prawnz 7y ago
Because I can't buy pizza.com but now I have a shot at pizza.new I guess. Some companies are willing to jump through hoops if it gets them a good domain
- hoffs 7y ago
  The medium example seems quite nice, story.new
sk84life 7y ago
Exactly what I was thinking too.. well said. BigUp!
sk84life 7y ago
Anyway.. anything Google or Facebook does these days.. give me creeps .. I am worried that internet evolution is going towards corporate censorship with licences and we have to have lifeline socket open to Google's data center 247. That's real HALLOWEEN for me tbh.

Already__Taken 7y ago

This is pretty normal, all registras have usage restrictions. Most are poorly enforced but googles reqs seem pretty reasonable, The problem with all registers is you have very little recourse. I quite like gsuite but if your only domain is bought as a google TLD on google domains with your gsuite account via google pay with google voice contact details and gmail contacts. God help you.

tobltobs 7y ago
> all registras have usage restrictions. Sure, but I never saw anything as ambiguous as: * Be used for action generation or online content creation; * Take the user directly into the action generation or content creation flow; * Allow Google Registry to verify compliance at no cost. That some AI script with a failure quote of ~2% will verify your compliance wont help also. And the only way to get some human support in those cases is when you manage to get on page 1 of HN with your "crying for help" tweet.
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- Double_a_92 7y ago
  That still seems pretty reasonable. They want ".new" to be seen and used as an interaction element, not as a random TLD. E.g. if twitter would get one, twitter.new would bring you somewhere where you could directly start typing a new tweet.
  - tobltobs 7y ago
    What about "car.new", where you can buy cars? Would that be enough "action generation"?
    - Already__Taken 7y ago
      tesla.new where you can order directly online, yeh probably. That's I reckon exactly the kind of distinction I think they're going for. ford.new would make me go to a dealer so I think they should be able to never get one.
      - tobltobs 7y ago
        But when you can book an appointment at a ford dealer next to you that would be kind of "action generation". Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone?
        Already__Taken 7y ago
        > Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone? Trademark law still exists, this is a solved problem.
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        wolco 7y ago
        Would only apply is the domain is being used with cars. Ford is a common last name.. could be dentist call to action.
  - eloisant 7y ago
    Well, good luck when your app gets flag by their bot, broken because the .new no longer works, and you can't get a hold of Google to remove you from their blacklist. Just read all the horror stories about apps on Google Play.
mkl 7y ago
They seem quite different, restrictive, and onerous to me. In particular "registrations must have websites that are both live and compliant within 100 days of registration". You can't register a domain to use later, you have to get something up quickly, something that satisfies Google's vague "action" requirements.
- account42 7y ago
  That part is actually positive though - if you want to squat a domain for over 100 days too bad.
  - tobltobs 7y ago
    And how is that supposed to work in reality if your project takes more then 100 days to build?
    - ozzmotik 7y ago
      start building it locally and then only buy the domain once it's close to complete?
      - tobltobs 7y ago
        What has the "where you built it" to do with the domain name?

apacheCamel 7y ago

I am pretty new to this space and I have a couple domains registered for some site ideas I would like to pursue in the future. Do all non-.com domains have these kind of restrictions? I thought they were always recommendations? How and why would Google ever think it is cool to restrict how I use a domain, other than the obvious illegal activities I guess?

Prawnz 7y ago

Because I can't buy pizza.com but now I have a shot at pizza.new I guess. Some companies are willing to jump through hoops if it gets them a good domain

hoffs 7y ago
The medium example seems quite nice, story.new

sk84life 7y ago

Exactly what I was thinking too.. well said. BigUp!

sk84life 7y ago

Anyway.. anything Google or Facebook does these days.. give me creeps .. I am worried that internet evolution is going towards corporate censorship with licences and we have to have lifeline socket open to Google's data center 247. That's real HALLOWEEN for me tbh.