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Let's not forget, totalitarian governments are way, way more dangerous for its citizens than any kind of criminals.

AJ007 7y ago
This should be upvoted. While the net deaths from murders, drug overdoses, and manslaughter of various cases might be a really high number, they are not even close to what a single government can do in a year or a nuclear-armed government can do in a few minutes. In regards to the whole NSO thing, I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. Consider how much trouble non-malicious hackers have gotten in for pointing out security holes publicly. What we have here is a company actively conducting espionage against some of the most valuable public companies in the United States. Even more egregious, they are targeting those companies’ customers, illegally.
- close04 7y ago
  > I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. The parties responsible with sanctions and warrants are their clients.
- dobbsbobjr 7y ago
  There's no reason to be baffled. Pick any of these five reasons. 1. Because they are Israeli and beyond reproach. There is nothing more politically correct than criticizing Israel. Even radicalized incel white power Proud Boys hate Jews while loving Israel. 2. America's strongest power base are ultra-conservative christians called Evangelicals, who believe Israel will bring forth the rapture[1] 3. Because America gives Israel billions of dollars to buy arms from them (wtf?) 4. Because AIPAC spends billions of dollars buying Us politicians 5. Because the USA is the only nation which can really create sanctions or embargoes, and all American politicians' swearing in ceremony seems to have included, "Thou shall not criticize Israel, ever, for any reason, really bro" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ
- CapricornNoble 7y ago
  >>>In regards to the whole NSO thing, I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. Lemme see if I can communicate this without committing karmic suicide like the other responder.... putting an Israeli cybersecurity firm on a sanctions list, or issuing arrest warrants, is simply a political non-starter in the US. It would be career suicide for most Congresspeople to take such a position.
- shahartal 7y ago
  all fighter jet principals and employees should have arrest warrants out for them. those damn fighter jets makers, killing people around the world with their jets. I mean, what did they think they are making a fighter jet for, they chose to work there and should have known the risks of being in the jet fighter business.

This should be upvoted. While the net deaths from murders, drug overdoses, and manslaughter of various cases might be a really high number, they are not even close to what a single government can do in a year or a nuclear-armed government can do in a few minutes. In regards to the whole NSO thing, I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. Consider how much trouble non-malicious hackers have gotten in for pointing out security holes publicly. What we have here is a company actively conducting espionage against some of the most valuable public companies in the United States. Even more egregious, they are targeting those companies’ customers, illegally.

close04 7y ago
> I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. The parties responsible with sanctions and warrants are their clients.
dobbsbobjr 7y ago
There's no reason to be baffled. Pick any of these five reasons. 1. Because they are Israeli and beyond reproach. There is nothing more politically correct than criticizing Israel. Even radicalized incel white power Proud Boys hate Jews while loving Israel. 2. America's strongest power base are ultra-conservative christians called Evangelicals, who believe Israel will bring forth the rapture[1] 3. Because America gives Israel billions of dollars to buy arms from them (wtf?) 4. Because AIPAC spends billions of dollars buying Us politicians 5. Because the USA is the only nation which can really create sanctions or embargoes, and all American politicians' swearing in ceremony seems to have included, "Thou shall not criticize Israel, ever, for any reason, really bro" [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ
CapricornNoble 7y ago
>>>In regards to the whole NSO thing, I’m completely baffled how their principals and employees are not on a sanctions list and don’t have arrest warrants out for them. Lemme see if I can communicate this without committing karmic suicide like the other responder.... putting an Israeli cybersecurity firm on a sanctions list, or issuing arrest warrants, is simply a political non-starter in the US. It would be career suicide for most Congresspeople to take such a position.
shahartal 7y ago
all fighter jet principals and employees should have arrest warrants out for them. those damn fighter jets makers, killing people around the world with their jets. I mean, what did they think they are making a fighter jet for, they chose to work there and should have known the risks of being in the jet fighter business.