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Well as someone who goes through a pod every few days, I appreciate having at least _some_ kind of heads up. The article's plenty useful to Juul smokers--knowin

by zasz 7y ago

Well as someone who goes through a pod every few days, I appreciate having at least _some_ kind of heads up. The article's plenty useful to Juul smokers--knowing that the mint flavor is the contaminated one means that I can switch to a different flavor until more news comes out.

carlmr 7y ago
> I can switch to a different flavor until more news comes out. I can't even understand why you wouldn't abandon all Juul products at this point.
- dzhiurgis 7y ago
  Posts like this reminds me Uber circa 2 years ago...
  - carlmr 7y ago
    In what way? I mean Kalanick was shown to be a dickhead that fostered a sexist frat bro work culture, as far as I remember, but that doesn't have any immediate bearing on me as a customer. From an egotistical customer perspective Juul knowingly selling tainted vials is relevant while Uber isn't.
- hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
  Maybe he is addicted to nicotine.
  - lightedman 7y ago
    There are plenty of other nicotine delivery systems besides JUUL.
    - ghostly_s 7y ago
      As I understand from the juulers I know, it gives you a fiendishly special kind of buzz, something to do with of the density of the hit and the miniscule size that compels you to suck on it 24/7. none of them are interested in other brands' products.
      - Jarwain 7y ago
        Don't forget the salt nicotine!
      - aphextim 7y ago
        For some insight to this, if they are using the salt based nicotine, that stuff is 25 mg or 50 mg, which is extremely concentrated vs "traditional" pg/vg liquid which came about first. The highest pg/vg liquid most people can tolerate is 18 mg. Typically if someone is using a smoking device that has the large clouds, they are only using 6 or 3 mg concentrate. The issue with high nicotine concentrate in the pg/vg liquid is the taste is very bad with high mg of nicotine. Now the tiny pods people smoke out of, do not have as large of clouds, however with the new type of salt-based liquid, you can smoke 25-50 mg and still have a pleasant taste to it. This is why anyone smoking the salt based liquid seems to have these fiendish kinds of buzz. Me personally, I started 4 years ago on 18 mg, after one year went to 12 mg, then 6 mg, now I'm on 3 mg. I plan on ripping the band-aid off soon and quitting cold turkey now that I've weened myself down. I am waiting for this upcoming holiday season to take a few days off, isolate myself from work and be a crappy asshole to myself for a bit and then be free of this stupid habit I picked up. (I used to smoke a pack a day or more starting when I was 18 before I transitioned to vaping) Tl:Dr - Salt based liquids are like a shot of nicotine vs a beer when you compare the concentration of the nicotine.
        leshow 7y ago
        I quit vaping after 2 years and found the hardest part was the ritual aspect of it, not so much the nicotine. I used to sit at my computer, code, and blow big vape clouds into the air. It was extremely relaxing and took a bit of time to get over it. I used 0 mg liquid for a while to help, but I would recommend tossing out your vape & any oils you have when you feel you're ready. Having them around is just a temptation.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
    As someone who was once addicted to nicotine himself I should point out that people could just choose to not be addicted to it. It's not difficult.
    - Cthulhu_ 7y ago
      wow thanks im cured
    - jaxn 7y ago
      Not sure why you are downvoted. This is the truth. You either quit, or you don't care enough. (Truth hurts)
      - abstractbarista 7y ago
        Yep, people get triggered by this, but I've found it personally true for me. Granted I haven't tried stuff like meth, but plain old nicotine and caffeine simply isn't "hard" for me to stop consuming.
        swozey 7y ago
        I'm old enough to have been addicted to things and gotten off of them multiple times in my life, usually nicotine and caffeine. I'll go 3-5 years on then 2-5 years off. Each time I get off I have 2-3 weeks where I'm an absolutely miserable person to be around. The first time I didn't realize it and thought I was just moody or having bad days. The second and beyond times (this is over 3 decades) I was well aware that all of the road rage, short tempers, mood swings, etc I was experiencing were exactly the same as the first time I got off. There's quite a few comments in here where people are planning to take time off over the holidays to get off nicotine. You may have bounced back with no ill effects but there are a lot of us that don't and are aware of how we act when coming off and don't want to put people we coexist with through that fun.
      - jcranberry 7y ago
        there's physiological addiction and there's psychological addiction. the former can be physically debilitating, but sometimes it's just annoying (technically anyone who ever gets a high from nicotine is physiologically addicted--the head rush is relief of withdrawal symptoms). but the latter means you're in a mental state where just quitting isn't so simple.
  - Cthulhu_ 7y ago
    There's a lot of alternatives out there, and you can even make your own; there's nothing particularly secretive about the ingredients of generic vape liquid. Of course then you have to know your sources of the raw materials.
    - deleted 7y ago
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castis 7y ago
I honestly cant tell if there is any sarcasm in here.
0xJRS 7y ago
Many people here are recommending switching off the juul which can be difficult when there aren't many similar devices out there, especially for people who don't want to carry a ~1lb box mod around. So I will highly recommend the Uwell Caliburn. It's entirely replaced my juul, its not much larger, the battery lasts longer and I like the flavors better. Plus the cost is significantly cheaper for me.
- swozey 7y ago
  Thanks I may give this a try. I desperately need to get off Juuls. I went from smoking a pack every 1-2 weeks to ecigs (20% down to 5% then quitting completely). Got hooked again at some point down the line (I still enjoy nicotine when my tolerance is low) and didn't want to deal with ecig drama (juice, batteries, etc) and tried a Juul. Loved it. Did zero research and didn't know that Juuls were nic-salt, I didn't even know nic-salt was a thing. I went from a pack a week smoker to practically one 5% pod a day. So now I'm basically a 5 pack a week smoker. Contrary to what every article I saw about it said "It's clearly labeled that a pod is a pack of smokes!" I have bought tons of Juul 4 packs that don't say that. It's my fault for not doing the research, of course. I honestly thought the 5% was equivalent to my ecig juice 5%.. Don't make my mistake. Now that I'm looking at this caliburn it's clearly 25mg-50mg. I never smoked anywhere near that. I've been trying to use 0 nic pods but they don't hit your throat at all so it's really not got the effect I need. The flavors great but it's the equivalent of eating dessert and blowing sweet air out of your mouth afterwards. To add even more pain to this I'm sitting here smoking mint pods which are what this articles about.. edit: I grabbed a Caliburn, if anyone is having a hard time finding lower mg nic salts I found that www.cloudberryvapors.com will make them to any of your specifications. I went with 12mg and got a sampler pack.
  - 0xJRS 7y ago
    Glad to hear you were able to grab a Caliburn. I've been using it instead of my juul for around 3 months now and my wallet thanks me. I generally replace the caliburn pod once a week or so, and if it ever starts to "spit" juice I pull the pod out and blow into it, seems to help. Good luck

by zasz 7y ago

carlmr 7y ago

> I can switch to a different flavor until more news comes out. I can't even understand why you wouldn't abandon all Juul products at this point.

dzhiurgis 7y ago
Posts like this reminds me Uber circa 2 years ago...
- carlmr 7y ago
  In what way? I mean Kalanick was shown to be a dickhead that fostered a sexist frat bro work culture, as far as I remember, but that doesn't have any immediate bearing on me as a customer. From an egotistical customer perspective Juul knowingly selling tainted vials is relevant while Uber isn't.
hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
Maybe he is addicted to nicotine.
- lightedman 7y ago
  There are plenty of other nicotine delivery systems besides JUUL.
  - ghostly_s 7y ago
    As I understand from the juulers I know, it gives you a fiendishly special kind of buzz, something to do with of the density of the hit and the miniscule size that compels you to suck on it 24/7. none of them are interested in other brands' products.
    - Jarwain 7y ago
      Don't forget the salt nicotine!
    - aphextim 7y ago
      For some insight to this, if they are using the salt based nicotine, that stuff is 25 mg or 50 mg, which is extremely concentrated vs "traditional" pg/vg liquid which came about first. The highest pg/vg liquid most people can tolerate is 18 mg. Typically if someone is using a smoking device that has the large clouds, they are only using 6 or 3 mg concentrate. The issue with high nicotine concentrate in the pg/vg liquid is the taste is very bad with high mg of nicotine. Now the tiny pods people smoke out of, do not have as large of clouds, however with the new type of salt-based liquid, you can smoke 25-50 mg and still have a pleasant taste to it. This is why anyone smoking the salt based liquid seems to have these fiendish kinds of buzz. Me personally, I started 4 years ago on 18 mg, after one year went to 12 mg, then 6 mg, now I'm on 3 mg. I plan on ripping the band-aid off soon and quitting cold turkey now that I've weened myself down. I am waiting for this upcoming holiday season to take a few days off, isolate myself from work and be a crappy asshole to myself for a bit and then be free of this stupid habit I picked up. (I used to smoke a pack a day or more starting when I was 18 before I transitioned to vaping) Tl:Dr - Salt based liquids are like a shot of nicotine vs a beer when you compare the concentration of the nicotine.
      - leshow 7y ago
        I quit vaping after 2 years and found the hardest part was the ritual aspect of it, not so much the nicotine. I used to sit at my computer, code, and blow big vape clouds into the air. It was extremely relaxing and took a bit of time to get over it. I used 0 mg liquid for a while to help, but I would recommend tossing out your vape & any oils you have when you feel you're ready. Having them around is just a temptation.
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
  As someone who was once addicted to nicotine himself I should point out that people could just choose to not be addicted to it. It's not difficult.
  - Cthulhu_ 7y ago
    wow thanks im cured
  - jaxn 7y ago
    Not sure why you are downvoted. This is the truth. You either quit, or you don't care enough. (Truth hurts)
    - abstractbarista 7y ago
      Yep, people get triggered by this, but I've found it personally true for me. Granted I haven't tried stuff like meth, but plain old nicotine and caffeine simply isn't "hard" for me to stop consuming.
      - swozey 7y ago
        I'm old enough to have been addicted to things and gotten off of them multiple times in my life, usually nicotine and caffeine. I'll go 3-5 years on then 2-5 years off. Each time I get off I have 2-3 weeks where I'm an absolutely miserable person to be around. The first time I didn't realize it and thought I was just moody or having bad days. The second and beyond times (this is over 3 decades) I was well aware that all of the road rage, short tempers, mood swings, etc I was experiencing were exactly the same as the first time I got off. There's quite a few comments in here where people are planning to take time off over the holidays to get off nicotine. You may have bounced back with no ill effects but there are a lot of us that don't and are aware of how we act when coming off and don't want to put people we coexist with through that fun.
    - jcranberry 7y ago
      there's physiological addiction and there's psychological addiction. the former can be physically debilitating, but sometimes it's just annoying (technically anyone who ever gets a high from nicotine is physiologically addicted--the head rush is relief of withdrawal symptoms). but the latter means you're in a mental state where just quitting isn't so simple.
- Cthulhu_ 7y ago
  There's a lot of alternatives out there, and you can even make your own; there's nothing particularly secretive about the ingredients of generic vape liquid. Of course then you have to know your sources of the raw materials.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]

castis 7y ago

I honestly cant tell if there is any sarcasm in here.

0xJRS 7y ago

Many people here are recommending switching off the juul which can be difficult when there aren't many similar devices out there, especially for people who don't want to carry a ~1lb box mod around. So I will highly recommend the Uwell Caliburn. It's entirely replaced my juul, its not much larger, the battery lasts longer and I like the flavors better. Plus the cost is significantly cheaper for me.

swozey 7y ago
Thanks I may give this a try. I desperately need to get off Juuls. I went from smoking a pack every 1-2 weeks to ecigs (20% down to 5% then quitting completely). Got hooked again at some point down the line (I still enjoy nicotine when my tolerance is low) and didn't want to deal with ecig drama (juice, batteries, etc) and tried a Juul. Loved it. Did zero research and didn't know that Juuls were nic-salt, I didn't even know nic-salt was a thing. I went from a pack a week smoker to practically one 5% pod a day. So now I'm basically a 5 pack a week smoker. Contrary to what every article I saw about it said "It's clearly labeled that a pod is a pack of smokes!" I have bought tons of Juul 4 packs that don't say that. It's my fault for not doing the research, of course. I honestly thought the 5% was equivalent to my ecig juice 5%.. Don't make my mistake. Now that I'm looking at this caliburn it's clearly 25mg-50mg. I never smoked anywhere near that. I've been trying to use 0 nic pods but they don't hit your throat at all so it's really not got the effect I need. The flavors great but it's the equivalent of eating dessert and blowing sweet air out of your mouth afterwards. To add even more pain to this I'm sitting here smoking mint pods which are what this articles about.. edit: I grabbed a Caliburn, if anyone is having a hard time finding lower mg nic salts I found that www.cloudberryvapors.com will make them to any of your specifications. I went with 12mg and got a sampler pack.
- 0xJRS 7y ago
  Glad to hear you were able to grab a Caliburn. I've been using it instead of my juul for around 3 months now and my wallet thanks me. I generally replace the caliburn pod once a week or so, and if it ever starts to "spit" juice I pull the pod out and blow into it, seems to help. Good luck