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Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. Any zero-skill job is going to pay whatever the local market minimum is. There are two ways to raise the min

Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. Any zero-skill job is going to pay whatever the local market minimum is. There are two ways to raise the minimum market wage. First is minimum wage laws. Second is to increase labor demand or shorten labor supply. There's clearly a surplus of no-skilled labor in the US, yet we're still importing more of it. Businesses are capitalizing on the market conditions and exploiting the labor surplus, that's why we're seeing the proliferation of so many chain restaurants and and other little-to-no-value businesses.

namarie 7y ago
> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. And yet they are. Should people suffer degradation for it?
- linuxftw 7y ago
  Unfortunately, most people spend the first 18 years of their life learning not-so-useful things, at least in the US. They might go on to college, spend lots of money, and waste several more years learning not-so-useful things. Then they work retail jobs for little money. It's their own doing.
enobrev 7y ago
I absolutely agree with your second paragraph. For the rest, I'd recommend you spend a half year working in the service industry for half minimum wage plus tips before throwing around phrases like "zero-skill".
- linuxftw 7y ago
  I waited tables for minimum wage plus tips prior to moving on to other things. I considered it a zero skill job. Literally no experience necessary, they'll hire anyone. There are plenty of zero-skill jobs (or maybe we should say zero-value-skill), and they're going to pay zero-skill job wages. You're free to pretend that's not the case, reality proves otherwise.
thatfrenchguy 7y ago
> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. Any zero-skill job is going to pay whatever the local market minimum is. Says who ? Why is your tech job supposed to be a bread winner job ?
- subject117 7y ago
  Says the monetary value created from a tech job vs the monetary value created from a retail job.
iron0013 7y ago
Every job is a bread-winner job. You think people labor out of the goodness of their heart? Everyone is trying to make a living.

namarie 7y ago

> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. And yet they are. Should people suffer degradation for it?

linuxftw 7y ago
Unfortunately, most people spend the first 18 years of their life learning not-so-useful things, at least in the US. They might go on to college, spend lots of money, and waste several more years learning not-so-useful things. Then they work retail jobs for little money. It's their own doing.

enobrev 7y ago

I absolutely agree with your second paragraph. For the rest, I'd recommend you spend a half year working in the service industry for half minimum wage plus tips before throwing around phrases like "zero-skill".

linuxftw 7y ago
I waited tables for minimum wage plus tips prior to moving on to other things. I considered it a zero skill job. Literally no experience necessary, they'll hire anyone. There are plenty of zero-skill jobs (or maybe we should say zero-value-skill), and they're going to pay zero-skill job wages. You're free to pretend that's not the case, reality proves otherwise.

thatfrenchguy 7y ago

> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. Any zero-skill job is going to pay whatever the local market minimum is. Says who ? Why is your tech job supposed to be a bread winner job ?

subject117 7y ago
Says the monetary value created from a tech job vs the monetary value created from a retail job.

iron0013 7y ago

Every job is a bread-winner job. You think people labor out of the goodness of their heart? Everyone is trying to make a living.