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Support the federated alternative that is being built based on the same technology (ActivityPub) as Mastodon and Peertube. [1] https://pixelfed.org/ https://pi

Support the federated alternative that is being built based on the same technology (ActivityPub) as Mastodon and Peertube. [1] https://pixelfed.org/ https://pixelfed.org/ [2] https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed

newscracker 7y ago
How mature and functional is it now? I recall looking at it in the past and seeing that it wasn’t ready (I’m perhaps not recalling things right). In the list of instances, the one with the highest number of users, pixelfed.social, seems to have less than 10 posts per user (in total), on average. Sounds like adoption is not even as good as Mastodon yet.
sarasasa28 7y ago
Kay man, surely all my friends will be there
- intpx 7y ago
  sups easy to get my 90 year old grandmother to switch over to see pictures of my kids
- pmlnr 7y ago
  > Fan: Why don't you follow anyone on twitter? > Eminem: Always be a leader not a follower. https://twitter.com/emin3mquotez/status/415206423342366720 https://twitter.com/emin3mquotez/status/415206423342366720 That aside, if not now, when? If not us, who? Someone has to start it. None of my friend were on FB when I joined it.
  - manthedudeguy 7y ago
    If nobody was a follower, could there be any leaders?
  - munmaek 7y ago
    The sad reality is nobody wants to use a platform that their friends mostly aren't on. Nobody really uses facebook because it's just so amazing, but because almost all of their friends and family are using it. (and facebook groups, many, many people use facebook for organizing meetups because it's free and... everyone's on it). It's familiar and easy, no complex things like federated servers to choose from. Just one central site. In real life I told some friends I left facebook/twitter, and they were like "ok". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Few people are just going to stop communication with their social group over principles or whatever. I stopped using facebook because I was fed up, but it sucked not being in the group chats for the communities that I was involved in. I had to work harder to keep abreast of what was going on, and it still wasn't the same. If I had kept on organizing and hosting events it would've been impossible. Things like meetups are possible on meetup.com, etc, for sure, but now I'm not privy to anything on facebook, and I have to pay to have my own group. Very few people are going to make that decision. I know people who still have fake accounts just to access fb groups, but not deal with the rest of facebook. Bridges are likely the only feasible way forward, but even though mastodon has one for twitter adoption hasn't really happened.
jelv 7y ago
Overview of the available instances: https://fediverse.network/pixelfed https://fediverse.network/pixelfed https://the-federation.info/pixelfed https://the-federation.info/pixelfed App with Pixelfed support for Android: https://fedilab.app/ https://fedilab.app/ Public profiles are public on Pixelfed: https://pixelfed.social/ubports https://pixelfed.social/ubports
- itronitron 7y ago
  i just get an account creation screen on the pixelfed.social site
- antpls 7y ago
  Will pixelfed ever support "stories" ? I kind of became addicted to stories on Instagram, although I admit the old gallery-only is less stressful
pmlnr 7y ago
Get your own website, so you'll have a place for those who just want to check you out without paywalls, loginwalls, any kind of walls. Add https://fed.brid.gy/ https://fed.brid.gy/ & webmention support, so you'll be @your.domain@your.domain on activitypub (read: pixelfed, mastodon, gnusocial, whatever) so the "fediverse" can follow and interact with you. Add h-feed markup for your website, so indieweb can follow and interact with you. Keep RSS & Atom feeds, so anyone oldschool can follow you. I'd love to add keep pingback... but that is insanely spam-prone.
sp332 7y ago
What's a good Instagram alternative with ActivityPub support? And what's a good instance to join, since I don't necessarily want to self-host just to test it out?
JoshTriplett 7y ago
Every time federation comes up, I always ask where the bridges are that allow "following" people on the non-federated sites (e.g. Twitter), and the answer is always vague and non-specific, suggesting that such bridges exist without any information about using them. I'd love to see a switching guide for, say, Twitter, that specifically says "here's how to transparently follow people on Twitter, and here's how to have your posts show up on your old Twitter account". Or similarly, if you're switching from Instagram, how do you follow folks from Instagram and automatically post to Instagram?
- ClearAndPresent 7y ago
  Perhaps you have misunderstood the purpose and implementation of federating sites like these? Your question sounds like someone asking how a user of a newly opened Facebook account can follow people on Twitter. They're entirely different services. The federating, or not, is immaterial. The first part is the alternative service. Mastodon is an alternative to Twitter, presented in a Twitter-like format and flow. People who use it do so because they want to avoid the restrictions and cultures of Twitter. They don't want to post the same content across the two services. They don't want to interact with Twitter. They want to be on Mastodon. The second part is the federating of the service. Instances of Mastodon are spread around, hosting a set of users on their individual servers. Each of those instances can then communicate between with the others, intending for you to be able to follow and interact with users on other Mastodon server instances as transparently as those of your local Mastodon server. They are still interacting within the Mastodon environment.
  - JoshTriplett 7y ago
    > Perhaps you have misunderstood the purpose and implementation of federating sites like these? No, I absolutely understand how federating sites work, and don't need the condescension. It's common, in many types of federated reimplementations of non-federated sites, to create special-case bridges that allow treating a large non-federated site as if it were following the federation protocol, precisely to help people migrate and to continue interoperating with users who are on the non-federated site. In the specific case of ActivityPub, there are multiple bridges that allow following Twitter users as if they were part of the fediverse. Multiple Mastodon users I know have mentioned them. People just don't talk about them very clearly, or document them in migration guides. Hence my comment suggesting that. If specific portions of the fediverse want to avoid ever interacting with Twitter bridges, they can absolutely do that, just as they can avoid interacting with other portions of the fediverse. But it would be helpful if potential new users had some information they could use to migrate more smoothly.
elandrum 7y ago
Are you aware of any mobile apps for Pixelfed yet?
- sschueller 7y ago
  I have started on one based on the work I did for the PeerTube app [1] but I have not released anything yet as pixelfed it self was too much of a WiP. I will start the project up again in a little bit when I have some time. [1] https://github.com/sschueller/peertube-android https://github.com/sschueller/peertube-android
deltron3030 7y ago
Why thwe focus on photos instead of images?

newscracker 7y ago

How mature and functional is it now? I recall looking at it in the past and seeing that it wasn’t ready (I’m perhaps not recalling things right). In the list of instances, the one with the highest number of users, pixelfed.social, seems to have less than 10 posts per user (in total), on average. Sounds like adoption is not even as good as Mastodon yet.

sarasasa28 7y ago

Kay man, surely all my friends will be there

intpx 7y ago
sups easy to get my 90 year old grandmother to switch over to see pictures of my kids
pmlnr 7y ago
> Fan: Why don't you follow anyone on twitter? > Eminem: Always be a leader not a follower. https://twitter.com/emin3mquotez/status/415206423342366720 https://twitter.com/emin3mquotez/status/415206423342366720 That aside, if not now, when? If not us, who? Someone has to start it. None of my friend were on FB when I joined it.
- manthedudeguy 7y ago
  If nobody was a follower, could there be any leaders?
- munmaek 7y ago
  The sad reality is nobody wants to use a platform that their friends mostly aren't on. Nobody really uses facebook because it's just so amazing, but because almost all of their friends and family are using it. (and facebook groups, many, many people use facebook for organizing meetups because it's free and... everyone's on it). It's familiar and easy, no complex things like federated servers to choose from. Just one central site. In real life I told some friends I left facebook/twitter, and they were like "ok". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Few people are just going to stop communication with their social group over principles or whatever. I stopped using facebook because I was fed up, but it sucked not being in the group chats for the communities that I was involved in. I had to work harder to keep abreast of what was going on, and it still wasn't the same. If I had kept on organizing and hosting events it would've been impossible. Things like meetups are possible on meetup.com, etc, for sure, but now I'm not privy to anything on facebook, and I have to pay to have my own group. Very few people are going to make that decision. I know people who still have fake accounts just to access fb groups, but not deal with the rest of facebook. Bridges are likely the only feasible way forward, but even though mastodon has one for twitter adoption hasn't really happened.

jelv 7y ago

Overview of the available instances: https://fediverse.network/pixelfed https://fediverse.network/pixelfed https://the-federation.info/pixelfed https://the-federation.info/pixelfed App with Pixelfed support for Android: https://fedilab.app/ https://fedilab.app/ Public profiles are public on Pixelfed: https://pixelfed.social/ubports https://pixelfed.social/ubports

itronitron 7y ago
i just get an account creation screen on the pixelfed.social site
antpls 7y ago
Will pixelfed ever support "stories" ? I kind of became addicted to stories on Instagram, although I admit the old gallery-only is less stressful

pmlnr 7y ago

Get your own website, so you'll have a place for those who just want to check you out without paywalls, loginwalls, any kind of walls. Add https://fed.brid.gy/ https://fed.brid.gy/ & webmention support, so you'll be @your.domain@your.domain on activitypub (read: pixelfed, mastodon, gnusocial, whatever) so the "fediverse" can follow and interact with you. Add h-feed markup for your website, so indieweb can follow and interact with you. Keep RSS & Atom feeds, so anyone oldschool can follow you. I'd love to add keep pingback... but that is insanely spam-prone.

sp332 7y ago

What's a good Instagram alternative with ActivityPub support? And what's a good instance to join, since I don't necessarily want to self-host just to test it out?

JoshTriplett 7y ago

Every time federation comes up, I always ask where the bridges are that allow "following" people on the non-federated sites (e.g. Twitter), and the answer is always vague and non-specific, suggesting that such bridges exist without any information about using them. I'd love to see a switching guide for, say, Twitter, that specifically says "here's how to transparently follow people on Twitter, and here's how to have your posts show up on your old Twitter account". Or similarly, if you're switching from Instagram, how do you follow folks from Instagram and automatically post to Instagram?

ClearAndPresent 7y ago
Perhaps you have misunderstood the purpose and implementation of federating sites like these? Your question sounds like someone asking how a user of a newly opened Facebook account can follow people on Twitter. They're entirely different services. The federating, or not, is immaterial. The first part is the alternative service. Mastodon is an alternative to Twitter, presented in a Twitter-like format and flow. People who use it do so because they want to avoid the restrictions and cultures of Twitter. They don't want to post the same content across the two services. They don't want to interact with Twitter. They want to be on Mastodon. The second part is the federating of the service. Instances of Mastodon are spread around, hosting a set of users on their individual servers. Each of those instances can then communicate between with the others, intending for you to be able to follow and interact with users on other Mastodon server instances as transparently as those of your local Mastodon server. They are still interacting within the Mastodon environment.
- JoshTriplett 7y ago
  > Perhaps you have misunderstood the purpose and implementation of federating sites like these? No, I absolutely understand how federating sites work, and don't need the condescension. It's common, in many types of federated reimplementations of non-federated sites, to create special-case bridges that allow treating a large non-federated site as if it were following the federation protocol, precisely to help people migrate and to continue interoperating with users who are on the non-federated site. In the specific case of ActivityPub, there are multiple bridges that allow following Twitter users as if they were part of the fediverse. Multiple Mastodon users I know have mentioned them. People just don't talk about them very clearly, or document them in migration guides. Hence my comment suggesting that. If specific portions of the fediverse want to avoid ever interacting with Twitter bridges, they can absolutely do that, just as they can avoid interacting with other portions of the fediverse. But it would be helpful if potential new users had some information they could use to migrate more smoothly.

elandrum 7y ago

Are you aware of any mobile apps for Pixelfed yet?

sschueller 7y ago
I have started on one based on the work I did for the PeerTube app [1] but I have not released anything yet as pixelfed it self was too much of a WiP. I will start the project up again in a little bit when I have some time. [1] https://github.com/sschueller/peertube-android https://github.com/sschueller/peertube-android

deltron3030 7y ago

Why thwe focus on photos instead of images?