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>I don't know why the hype train is such a thing for the AMD crowd Because AMD doesn't deliver constant good results. They just drop a bombshell every 10 years

• zepearl 7y ago
  I agree, but it could be that it's just a subjective feeling. In any case if I remember correctly AMD was the first using a ~64bit arch in consumer CPUs (which I think is why the arch is called "AMD64") and the same about offering multicore CPUs ( https://www.pcworld.com/article/117654/article.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/117654/article.html ), but Intel was then always able to quickly catch up (and, in the end, present better products). In the case of Zen I read some time ago that the lead architect left AMD and ended up working now for Intel ( from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) ): In August 2012, Jim Keller returned to AMD, where his primary task was to design a new generation microarchitecture called Zen. After years of being unable to compete with Intel in the high-end CPU market, the new generation of Zen processors is hoped to restore AMD's position in the high-end x86-64 processor market. On September 18, 2015, Keller departed from AMD to pursue other opportunities, ending his three-year employment at AMD. In January 2016, Keller joined Tesla, Inc. as Vice President of Autopilot Hardware Engineering. In April 2018, Keller joined Intel That doesn't give me a good feeling about the future of AMD chips, but on the other hand AMD's CEO (Lisa Su) gives me the impression of being a "no bull*hit"-person, so I do still have hope that they won't mess up things in future revisions of the architecture :)