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I think black lives matter has more to do with what is happening now than with what was happening in the 80s. Protesting because we are treating opioid users be

I think black lives matter has more to do with what is happening now than with what was happening in the 80s. Protesting because we are treating opioid users better than drug users 30 years ago doesn't make much sense.

hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
> I think black lives matter has more to do with what is happening now than with what was happening in the 80s. I absolutely agree, and I wasn't arguing against that. I just think when you hear things like the "All Lives Matter" retort, the juxtaposition between the crack epidemic and the opioid epidemic is such a crystal clear difference where (a) the crack epidemic really wasn't that long ago at all and (b) the race of the main affected communities is the only real difference that brought about all the huge differences in the societal response.
- tropo 7y ago
  It's not race. It's how the addiction started. There is sympathy for people who started because a highly-educated and trusted professional made a prescription of an FDA-approved medicine to treat a severe injury. There is much less sympathy for somebody who started because they illegally got a substance for recreational purposes from a criminal. That is a world of difference, and race doesn't even come into the picture. TL;DR is that "my bone is sticking out of my leg" is different from "let's get fucked up".
coldtea 7y ago
It does make sense, considering: 1) "30 years ago" is not some ancient time (as some people in the 20s might think). There are tons of people impacted from then, and tons of children and relatives of said people. 2) The "30 years ago" thing didn't stop "30 years ago". 30 years ago was just when it broke out...
- pathseeker 7y ago
  Not really, especially when you ask people who are part of the movement. It's almost entirely about abuse from police, etc now.

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I think black lives matter has more to do with what is happening now than with what was happening in the 80s. Protesting because we are treating opioid users be

by GhostVII 7y ago

hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
> I think black lives matter has more to do with what is happening now than with what was happening in the 80s. I absolutely agree, and I wasn't arguing against that. I just think when you hear things like the "All Lives Matter" retort, the juxtaposition between the crack epidemic and the opioid epidemic is such a crystal clear difference where (a) the crack epidemic really wasn't that long ago at all and (b) the race of the main affected communities is the only real difference that brought about all the huge differences in the societal response.
- tropo 7y ago
  It's not race. It's how the addiction started. There is sympathy for people who started because a highly-educated and trusted professional made a prescription of an FDA-approved medicine to treat a severe injury. There is much less sympathy for somebody who started because they illegally got a substance for recreational purposes from a criminal. That is a world of difference, and race doesn't even come into the picture. TL;DR is that "my bone is sticking out of my leg" is different from "let's get fucked up".
coldtea 7y ago
It does make sense, considering: 1) "30 years ago" is not some ancient time (as some people in the 20s might think). There are tons of people impacted from then, and tons of children and relatives of said people. 2) The "30 years ago" thing didn't stop "30 years ago". 30 years ago was just when it broke out...
- pathseeker 7y ago
  Not really, especially when you ask people who are part of the movement. It's almost entirely about abuse from police, etc now.