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You watch Dutch bike videos, people are maybe going 12 mph, usually less. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9yqG6hAS4s https://www.youtube.com/watc

• u801e 7y ago
  My own bike commute where I pick up the kids from school and drop them off at after school activities involves about 15 miles of riding. I average about 11 mph while moving and it takes me about 1 hour and 30 minutes (including the time it takes me to pick them up, load them in the trailer, unload them and drop them off. My lowest speed up hills is around 5 mph and my top speed is around 27 mph when going downhill. If I were to only go 12 mph or less, then my average speed would be significantly lower and I would not be able to complete this commute in a reasonable period of time, nor would I be able to get my kids to their after school programs on time. Infrastructure like what the Dutch have is not suitable or safe for the speeds I ride, but taking the lane on the actual road works out just fine.