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Maybe we should focus on finding a way to ... clone our brain inside of mechanical box. I know plenty of ethical considerations there, but a human with all the

Maybe we should focus on finding a way to ... clone our brain inside of mechanical box. I know plenty of ethical considerations there, but a human with all the life skills of a human would be a perfect AI and not need the normal learning that focus ML brings w/ it. Imagine if they just clone a driving instructor's brain, and placed copies of that inside the cars...

IIAOPSW 7y ago
Imagine being given immortality but you have to work a day job as a car and you don't get time off ever.
- gremlinsinc 7y ago
  I know..but you could have time off... I mean you're not driving 24/7...maybe when not needed for transport you live in VR space.
  - IIAOPSW 7y ago
    You could also be turned off and reset. Why waste the power? Who will know? Is it even a crime to kill a simulated person?
    - gremlinsinc 7y ago
      Yes. If you buy into the belief that we're living in a simulation. It's a crime if we murder, therefore it's a crime to murder a simulated person.
etrautmann 7y ago
This is not technically feasible for the foreseeable future and ethically fraught, but a fun thought experiment.
arpa 7y ago
Hey, SOMA is a game you would enjoy!
braindeath 7y ago
Interfacing a brain sounds quite complicated. Instead, the mechanical box could just be a human body since we have over 1000s of years interfacing that with various vehicle controls. We could probably harvest these fully functional units in less economically productive parts of the world, like Africa.
colorincorrect 7y ago
Even if we did this, we still don't know how to interface with the brain. Brain Computer Interface (BCI) technology is still very bad. We can barely do anything. I recall that using EEG, you can extract at most 4 degrees of freedom/conscious-control, beyond that we can't do anything. We also kinda suck at monitering any "human intent" using EEG because there's no clear biological signal for that either. Most of the successes seem to be done with some direct-to-brain interface, but those aren't magical either, and no one wants to do that. I unfortunately missed a bright grad student's talk on the state of BCI. I didn't get to hear what he had to say, but the only slide in his talk was the image of a garbage dumpster on fire.
marcosscriven 7y ago
Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror
gerbilly 7y ago
Probably not possible. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition

IIAOPSW 7y ago

Imagine being given immortality but you have to work a day job as a car and you don't get time off ever.

gremlinsinc 7y ago
I know..but you could have time off... I mean you're not driving 24/7...maybe when not needed for transport you live in VR space.
- IIAOPSW 7y ago
  You could also be turned off and reset. Why waste the power? Who will know? Is it even a crime to kill a simulated person?
  - gremlinsinc 7y ago
    Yes. If you buy into the belief that we're living in a simulation. It's a crime if we murder, therefore it's a crime to murder a simulated person.

etrautmann 7y ago

This is not technically feasible for the foreseeable future and ethically fraught, but a fun thought experiment.

arpa 7y ago

Hey, SOMA is a game you would enjoy!

braindeath 7y ago

Interfacing a brain sounds quite complicated. Instead, the mechanical box could just be a human body since we have over 1000s of years interfacing that with various vehicle controls. We could probably harvest these fully functional units in less economically productive parts of the world, like Africa.

colorincorrect 7y ago

Even if we did this, we still don't know how to interface with the brain. Brain Computer Interface (BCI) technology is still very bad. We can barely do anything. I recall that using EEG, you can extract at most 4 degrees of freedom/conscious-control, beyond that we can't do anything. We also kinda suck at monitering any "human intent" using EEG because there's no clear biological signal for that either. Most of the successes seem to be done with some direct-to-brain interface, but those aren't magical either, and no one wants to do that. I unfortunately missed a bright grad student's talk on the state of BCI. I didn't get to hear what he had to say, but the only slide in his talk was the image of a garbage dumpster on fire.

marcosscriven 7y ago

Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror

gerbilly 7y ago

Probably not possible. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition