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> Why do you think we shouldn't rehabilitate attempted murderers? I don't necessarily think what the justice system associates with rehabilitation is what I as

by sysbin 7y ago

> Why do you think we shouldn't rehabilitate attempted murderers? I don't necessarily think what the justice system associates with rehabilitation is what I associate with the word. To answer your question, yes a person shouldn't be doomed to jail and when everything is outside one's control. Furthermore, if you study killology the reality is that the majority of humans cannot take the life of another human. The statistics in World War II was approximately 25% of soldiers would actually fire their gun. Today the number is grossly higher and the academic research has the cause being from military adopting psychological training methods for dehumanization. This is interesting to understand with the topic. Since, I theorize the majority of attempts couldn't actually carry it out and didn't realize until reaching the moment where they couldn't do it.

daveFNbuck 7y ago
Everything is outside your control regardless of whether the murder is successful. You seemed to be arguing earlier that there was something different about attempted murder that means it shouldn't be punished while murder should. Are you just saying that no one should ever be put in jail? Do you think attempted murder should be treated differently if the attempt demonstrated ability to carry it out, but the victim survived due to luck?
- sysbin 7y ago
  > You seemed to be arguing earlier that there was something different about attempted murder that means it shouldn't be punished while murder should. Sorry, for that impression. I think all crimes are like illnesses. > Do you think attempted murder should be treated differently if the attempt demonstrated ability to carry it out, but the victim survived due to luck? Well, in an ideal world if I could design the justice system. I would think that every negative outcome is like an illness. Some illnesses are more unique than others but being able to carry murder is definitely different than not being able to but tried. So the illnesses would have to be cured differently.

by sysbin 7y ago

daveFNbuck 7y ago

Everything is outside your control regardless of whether the murder is successful. You seemed to be arguing earlier that there was something different about attempted murder that means it shouldn't be punished while murder should. Are you just saying that no one should ever be put in jail? Do you think attempted murder should be treated differently if the attempt demonstrated ability to carry it out, but the victim survived due to luck?

sysbin 7y ago
> You seemed to be arguing earlier that there was something different about attempted murder that means it shouldn't be punished while murder should. Sorry, for that impression. I think all crimes are like illnesses. > Do you think attempted murder should be treated differently if the attempt demonstrated ability to carry it out, but the victim survived due to luck? Well, in an ideal world if I could design the justice system. I would think that every negative outcome is like an illness. Some illnesses are more unique than others but being able to carry murder is definitely different than not being able to but tried. So the illnesses would have to be cured differently.