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And now what? I'm only half joking. I'm glad you find pleasure in Joy, really am, programming should be more enjoyable. And having only read about it, I feel
by codr7 7y ago
And now what?
I'm only half joking.
I'm glad you find pleasure in Joy, really am, programming should be more enjoyable. And having only read about it, I feel like they're related in spirit.
But this looks like madness to me. There's just too much stuff in there that has nothing to do with the algorithm. It feels like stacking monads in Haskell. Sure, it's cool and all, I mean that it works. And beautiful on one level. But still madness, as far as solving problems go.
- carapace 7y agoJef Raskin pointed out that, in IT, when we use the word "intuitive" we really mean "familiar". It looks like madness because you're not familiar with it. (APL has the same problem, and APL programmers insist they can read it.) I've found that Joy makes it really easy to derive programs mathematically, in a simple, almost geometric way.
- codr7 7y agoAnd he's correct, as far as that goes. It's the same story wherever you look, true Haskell believers make exactly the same claims. You just need to get used to it. And I'm sure I could, it worked for a little while in Haskell. But as soon as I'm back using practical minded, general purpose tools; it comes back to me and I swear to never ever accept anything that doesn't make sense to me again. This is not about being different, if you think that's the case you probably didn't take a very close look at forthy2. If it walks and quacks like a religious cult, that's what it is.