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I have Apple's PowerBeats Pros. They cost $250, and the batteries cannot be replaced. I expect them to last about two years, based on AirPods usage. And the foo

I have Apple's PowerBeats Pros. They cost $250, and the batteries cannot be replaced. I expect them to last about two years, based on AirPods usage. And the footprint on those things is so minuscule in comparison to other aspects of my life that I could easily improve, I feel no need to justify my choice whatsoever. EDIT: another comment prompted me to explain better. Money aside, for a bit of trash I get two years of entertainment, a quality experience, more enjoyable runs, something to listen to on my commute, a voice assistant for when my hands are full. All for a little pile of garbage after a few years. Now let's take a trip down the street to the teriyaki place close to work. EVERY TAKEOUT MEAL THEY SERVE generates more garbage than my earphones. If not the lithium batteries, for sure more plastic by weight or volume (let's not forget the styrofoam, either). For something that's going to be forgotten and floating in the toilet tomorrow morning. I don't eat at the teriyaki place anymore for the above reasons. Leave me the hell alone about my headset choices. /EDIT Though with a minute of thought, I'm pretty sure I could mount a reasonable argument for disposable, but smart, earphones reducing my footprint. But that's a longer discussion and beside the point. EDIT: for one example, see user ogre_codes experience with Walkmans.

pohl 7y ago
Why would AirPods usage be a useful model for estimating the expected lifetime of Powerbeats pros?
- mikestew 7y ago
  What other data do I have to go on? PBPs have only been out for like a year. I figure I'll use the new ones in patterns similar to the old ones. PBPs have a bigger battery, so if I get two years out of AirPods it's not unreasonable to expect the same or more out of PBPs.
  - pohl 7y ago
    Miniaturization carries a stiff penalty. I'd expect the size-class needs to be similar before one can make a meaningful comparison.
thecrash 7y ago
> let's take a trip down the street to the teriyaki place close to work. EVERY TAKEOUT MEAL THEY SERVE generates more garbage than my earphones This is a superficial analysis of waste, because it only takes into account the finished product, not the production process.

pohl 7y ago

Why would AirPods usage be a useful model for estimating the expected lifetime of Powerbeats pros?

mikestew 7y ago
What other data do I have to go on? PBPs have only been out for like a year. I figure I'll use the new ones in patterns similar to the old ones. PBPs have a bigger battery, so if I get two years out of AirPods it's not unreasonable to expect the same or more out of PBPs.
- pohl 7y ago
  Miniaturization carries a stiff penalty. I'd expect the size-class needs to be similar before one can make a meaningful comparison.

thecrash 7y ago

> let's take a trip down the street to the teriyaki place close to work. EVERY TAKEOUT MEAL THEY SERVE generates more garbage than my earphones This is a superficial analysis of waste, because it only takes into account the finished product, not the production process.