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> The government is unwilling to hire these people, so they're available to private individuals. Show me the evidence this is happening.

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austhrow743 7y ago
Your very own comment said "lack of supply of fireman". Are you implying that there are open fireman positions that no one is applying for? If so your market is incredibly different from the one I know. Here in Australia a job as a fireman is very hard to get.
- supercanuck 7y ago
  There are open positions. Whether qualified applicants are applying, I don’t know. https://mobile.twitter.com/CALFIRE_Careers https://mobile.twitter.com/CALFIRE_Careers
- turk73 7y ago
  The job of fireman is also extremely hard to get in the US, too, because there is 100% nepotism. You have to be related to a fireman to become a fireman. You can become a volunteer or part-time paid fireman in some areas, but the full time roles require connections. I have lived in three states, it's been the same in each state. The US South is the worst as far as nepotism goes. If you're not from a southern state, it is very difficult to practice law there as well. There are tight controls on all kinds of things that you wouldn't expect. I really don't wish to create a firestorm on here, but your odds of becoming a billionaire in the US are not very good unless you are well aligned with certain factions. Which factions those are I will not say because I will just get accused and the conversation will die. Be that as it may, it does not change the reality that any random individual can't just work hard and attain great wealth, moderate wealth yes, great wealth, no.
eloff 7y ago
It's a free market, if the government makes a better offer, they'll go work for the government instead of privately.
- turk73 7y ago
  It is most decidedly NOT! If I were to start a private fire fighting firm here, the first thing that would happen is I would have public union firefighters assaulting me or my family members. The second thing that would happen is that I would go out of business because it is next to impossible to compete with "free." Taxpayer funded firefighters are a monopoly granted by government, aka not a free market in any sense. Meanwwhile, my city is behind on promised expansions of fire houses and infrastructure. The money went somewhere, though. Just like our school district which keeps needing more and more money but keeps having less and less performance meanwhile. The Superintendent quit/was fired and got a massive buyout clause in her contract to the tune of $500,000 or more and meanwhile kids can't read or do math because of her incompetence. We live in Clown World, that's all I can think.

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austhrow743 7y ago

Your very own comment said "lack of supply of fireman". Are you implying that there are open fireman positions that no one is applying for? If so your market is incredibly different from the one I know. Here in Australia a job as a fireman is very hard to get.

supercanuck 7y ago
There are open positions. Whether qualified applicants are applying, I don’t know. https://mobile.twitter.com/CALFIRE_Careers https://mobile.twitter.com/CALFIRE_Careers
turk73 7y ago
The job of fireman is also extremely hard to get in the US, too, because there is 100% nepotism. You have to be related to a fireman to become a fireman. You can become a volunteer or part-time paid fireman in some areas, but the full time roles require connections. I have lived in three states, it's been the same in each state. The US South is the worst as far as nepotism goes. If you're not from a southern state, it is very difficult to practice law there as well. There are tight controls on all kinds of things that you wouldn't expect. I really don't wish to create a firestorm on here, but your odds of becoming a billionaire in the US are not very good unless you are well aligned with certain factions. Which factions those are I will not say because I will just get accused and the conversation will die. Be that as it may, it does not change the reality that any random individual can't just work hard and attain great wealth, moderate wealth yes, great wealth, no.

eloff 7y ago

It's a free market, if the government makes a better offer, they'll go work for the government instead of privately.

turk73 7y ago
It is most decidedly NOT! If I were to start a private fire fighting firm here, the first thing that would happen is I would have public union firefighters assaulting me or my family members. The second thing that would happen is that I would go out of business because it is next to impossible to compete with "free." Taxpayer funded firefighters are a monopoly granted by government, aka not a free market in any sense. Meanwwhile, my city is behind on promised expansions of fire houses and infrastructure. The money went somewhere, though. Just like our school district which keeps needing more and more money but keeps having less and less performance meanwhile. The Superintendent quit/was fired and got a massive buyout clause in her contract to the tune of $500,000 or more and meanwhile kids can't read or do math because of her incompetence. We live in Clown World, that's all I can think.