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It almost looks like Youtube intentionally raised the number and length of ads before and after videos while heavily pushing Youtube premium alerts to make peop

by rumori 7y ago

It almost looks like Youtube intentionally raised the number and length of ads before and after videos while heavily pushing Youtube premium alerts to make people sign up for their subscription. No matter what you do, they win.

catalogia 7y ago
> "No matter what you do, they win." What if what you do is use youtube-dl?
- kds3 7y ago
  They can just suspend your account. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759
  - catalogia 7y ago
    They theoretically could, but there is no real reason to think it actually happened to that guy. His story is full of holes, and furthermore tons of people use youtube-dl daily while only this single guy claims to have been banned.
Majestic121 7y ago
I don't mind if they win as long as I do as well. Relationship between consumers and business don't have to be adversarial : I'm glad to pay for a product that I consider worth it, and having the choice to pay with money instead of brain time with ads is a clear positive to me.
- pmoriarty 7y ago
  For me a much better solution would be to get content out of the hands of profit-seeking companies.
Mirioron 7y ago
Unlikely. YouTube premium seems like an afterthought at best. Just a few months ago they finally rolled out the program in a bunch of rich EU countries. If it was important for them then I really don't see why it would take them years to offer the subscription service for rich countries.
- mschuster91 7y ago
  > If it was important for them then I really don't see why it would take them years to offer the subscription service for rich countries. When you pay for something, you expect service and support. Google is not known for support, especially if providing support requires staffing of actual breathing humans, so the rollout was delayed until at least a minimum of support standard could be met.

by rumori 7y ago

catalogia 7y ago

> "No matter what you do, they win." What if what you do is use youtube-dl?

kds3 7y ago
They can just suspend your account. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21247759
- catalogia 7y ago
  They theoretically could, but there is no real reason to think it actually happened to that guy. His story is full of holes, and furthermore tons of people use youtube-dl daily while only this single guy claims to have been banned.

Majestic121 7y ago

I don't mind if they win as long as I do as well. Relationship between consumers and business don't have to be adversarial : I'm glad to pay for a product that I consider worth it, and having the choice to pay with money instead of brain time with ads is a clear positive to me.

pmoriarty 7y ago
For me a much better solution would be to get content out of the hands of profit-seeking companies.

Mirioron 7y ago

Unlikely. YouTube premium seems like an afterthought at best. Just a few months ago they finally rolled out the program in a bunch of rich EU countries. If it was important for them then I really don't see why it would take them years to offer the subscription service for rich countries.

mschuster91 7y ago
> If it was important for them then I really don't see why it would take them years to offer the subscription service for rich countries. When you pay for something, you expect service and support. Google is not known for support, especially if providing support requires staffing of actual breathing humans, so the rollout was delayed until at least a minimum of support standard could be met.