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> So... They have "shipped" and still haven't? That's also clarified in the blog post. Sorry, I haven't posted the link before: https://puri.sm/posts/supplying

by V4ASt2 7y ago

> So... They have "shipped" and still haven't? That's also clarified in the blog post. Sorry, I haven't posted the link before: https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ > Where are the flattened schematics with the i.MX8MQ SOC and RAM onboard? So far, I haven't been able to find them. They are and will be available to anyone owning the phone, just like I said in the previous post. You said: > even the dev units have no details on their construction so I showed you the full open sourced design. You said > the community can't get in there to help. so I proved that anyone with the willpower can engage. Now you're complaining that people don't want to engage. By saying: > the only contributors I've ever seen are [...] -- not someone with a dev board who doesn't work at Purism. you're moving the goal posts and making me look wrong. > Ahh, my apologies then. My memory must have failed me. Glad to be corrected! See, that's the problem with your posts here. I'd much rather have you get corrected by asking questions at the community channels, which are frequently answered by engineers rather than post under-researched false things on unrelated forums. By posting wrong things, you're undermining the project, which you yourself claim to support.

mondoshawan 7y ago
> That's also clarified in the blog post. Sorry, I haven't posted the link before: https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ The blog post says one thing. Nobody in the community has posted anything about actually having an Aspen in hand and working on it yet. > They are and will be available to anyone owning the phone, just like I said in the previous post. Technically I own one because I plonked down the ~$500 or whatever it was to preorder one. I'm in the later batches, but I have paid for one. It would be nice to get at those schematics, if they exist publicly. Sadly, I haven't been able to find them, and you haven't been forthcoming except to point me to a schematic and board art for the dev board. > You said: even the dev units have no details on their construction > so I showed you the full open sourced design. Ah, sorry -- I should have been more clear in the first post. I was referring to the schematics for the EmCraft SOM, without which trying to manage thermals and manipulating device trees is going to be problematic. Frankly, it's a bit disingenuous to call that a full open sourced design -- half the dev unit's board is missing and buried inside that EmCraft symbol. > You said: the community can't get in there to help. And they can't without schematics for the EmCraft SOM. I was prepping to actually help out at one point, but stopped because I couldn't find the EmCraft SOM schematic. > you're moving the goal posts and making me look wrong. No, you're reading too much into the original post. I said the community hasn't been able to help. Purism isn't the community, and your link points to a commit from a Purism account. I fail to see how I moved the goal posts here. > See, that's the problem with your posts here. I'd much rather have you get corrected by asking questions at the community channels, which are frequently answered by engineers rather than post under-researched false things on unrelated forums. By posting wrong things, you're undermining the project, which you yourself claim to support. I have asked in the community and dev board channels, on Matrix, and I have spoken with engineers involved. Some questions were answered, some weren't. Others were answered with handwavy "eventually" statements. I mentioned this in the first post I made about this.
- alasdair_ 7y ago
  >The blog post says one thing. Nobody in the community has posted anything about actually having an Aspen in hand and working on it yet. I assume that's because none of the Aspen units went to non-staff members. From their blog post: "We intended on the second revision of Aspen (black case) getting into the hands of backers, but due to the results of quality control tests against RAM clocking at full-speed (consuming power and generating heat), we made the decision to move those backers to Birch and deliver the rest of Aspen to developers and staff."

by V4ASt2 7y ago

mondoshawan 7y ago

> That's also clarified in the blog post. Sorry, I haven't posted the link before: https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ https://puri.sm/posts/supplying-the-demand/ The blog post says one thing. Nobody in the community has posted anything about actually having an Aspen in hand and working on it yet. > They are and will be available to anyone owning the phone, just like I said in the previous post. Technically I own one because I plonked down the ~$500 or whatever it was to preorder one. I'm in the later batches, but I have paid for one. It would be nice to get at those schematics, if they exist publicly. Sadly, I haven't been able to find them, and you haven't been forthcoming except to point me to a schematic and board art for the dev board. > You said: even the dev units have no details on their construction > so I showed you the full open sourced design. Ah, sorry -- I should have been more clear in the first post. I was referring to the schematics for the EmCraft SOM, without which trying to manage thermals and manipulating device trees is going to be problematic. Frankly, it's a bit disingenuous to call that a full open sourced design -- half the dev unit's board is missing and buried inside that EmCraft symbol. > You said: the community can't get in there to help. And they can't without schematics for the EmCraft SOM. I was prepping to actually help out at one point, but stopped because I couldn't find the EmCraft SOM schematic. > you're moving the goal posts and making me look wrong. No, you're reading too much into the original post. I said the community hasn't been able to help. Purism isn't the community, and your link points to a commit from a Purism account. I fail to see how I moved the goal posts here. > See, that's the problem with your posts here. I'd much rather have you get corrected by asking questions at the community channels, which are frequently answered by engineers rather than post under-researched false things on unrelated forums. By posting wrong things, you're undermining the project, which you yourself claim to support. I have asked in the community and dev board channels, on Matrix, and I have spoken with engineers involved. Some questions were answered, some weren't. Others were answered with handwavy "eventually" statements. I mentioned this in the first post I made about this.

alasdair_ 7y ago
>The blog post says one thing. Nobody in the community has posted anything about actually having an Aspen in hand and working on it yet. I assume that's because none of the Aspen units went to non-staff members. From their blog post: "We intended on the second revision of Aspen (black case) getting into the hands of backers, but due to the results of quality control tests against RAM clocking at full-speed (consuming power and generating heat), we made the decision to move those backers to Birch and deliver the rest of Aspen to developers and staff."