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> We legally photograph public graffiti and make it available to you Is that how the copyright works in the UK??? Like I can photograph anybody's art and just
by bufferoverflow 7y ago
> We legally photograph public graffiti and make it available to you
Is that how the copyright works in the UK??? Like I can photograph anybody's art and just sell prints? That doesn't sound right.
- cookie_monsta 7y agoI think the point is that the artist does not want to claim copyright.
- Spivak 7y agoRelated question. Can you just photograph a building a sell photos without a license from the architect?
- tom_mellior 7y agoThat depends on where you are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama Interestingly, for the UK this seems to claim full freedom of panorama, seemingly contradicting the law quoted in your sister comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21369261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21369261
- Doctor_Fegg 7y agoNo, it isn't. The closest that UK copyright law gets is that there's an exemption for photographs of "sculptures, models for buildings and works of artistic craftsmanship, if permanently situated in a public place or in premises open to the public". (See section 62 at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/308729/cdpa1988-unofficial.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... .) But Banksy's pictures are just straight "artistic works". There's no need to class them as "works of artistic craftsmanship" and I don't believe any court would do so. The infringers are either deliberately misreading copyright law or simply ignorant of it. I suspect the latter.
- jtbayly 7y agoWhat is the difference between works Of artistic craftsmanship and artistic works? His works are generally permanently situated in a public place. I would think that taking a picture of any random public wall with graffiti on it is legal. But you seem to be saying that there are two kinds of art, and that the kind that is “worse” gets protection, but the better kind didn’t get protection. Very odd.
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- Traster 7y agoThe germane point is that Banksy isn't claiming copyright, he's claiming a trademark. He could stop them doing this if he sued them for copyright infringement but he's choosing not to.
- Traster 7y agoHe wants to have his cake and eat it. He can copyright his work to have it protected, but won't because that would mean you know the name of the person who makes it. So instead he abuses the law by claiming a trademark - which he isn't entitled to under the law. So now someone has challenged his trademark and because Banksy isn't actually some anti-establishment rebel, he's using fancy lawyers and public pressure to get his way despite not actually being right as a matter of law.
- fortran77 7y agoIf he painted something without permission on someone else's wall (for example), I don't have a problem with the owner of the wall trying to profit from it. And if he painted something without permission on a wall owned by a Government, funded by "The People", I don't have a problem with anyone trying to profit from it via photographic reproduction (modulo local copyright / ownership laws of the country the wall is in). Warhol made art from someone else's Campbell Soup cans and everyone loved that....
- bufferoverflow 7y agoWarhol's art is transformative, so there's no copyright issue. Straight photographs of art are generally not considered transformative by courts.