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I like how "Arrays Considered Somewhat Harmful" becomes "Arrays are Harmful." Do away with those weasel words to make your title more catchy! (not link-baity, n

I like how "Arrays Considered Somewhat Harmful" becomes "Arrays are Harmful." Do away with those weasel words to make your title more catchy! (not link-baity, no no).

jonpaul 16y ago
As the submitter and not the author, I stand nothing to gain by sharing the article. But, I see your point. I was thinking that when he mentioned not having a model where a mutable collection with fixed size made sense; thus, it translated to me to "arrays are harmful." I then considered "somewhat" to be pointless.
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- abraham 16y ago
  Other then karma.
- jbri 16y ago
  Except that by removing the "considered" word, you also removed the shoutout back to the goto article.
bugsy 16y ago
Or "Arrays have disadvantages in .NET." Arrays are useful in many languages. I like C arrays quite a bit and will return a huge amount of data with a single allocation. Allocations are expensive.
gsivil 16y ago
What worries me more is that a purely "meta" comment becomes the most upvoted one.
- hugh3 16y ago
  What worries me is that I just upvoted your metameta comment.
jordan0day 16y ago
For computer science folks, "Considered Harmful" actually makes the title more catchy, not less. That phrase has a long history (relatively speaking) in the discipline. Maybe you're being sarcastic/making a joke and I'm just not getting it?
- cosgroveb 16y ago
  Excellent point. It goes back to Djikstra's "Go To Statement Considered Harmful." I was just pointing out that changing the title from "... Considered Somewhat Harmful" to "Arrays are Harmful" is just linkbaiting the title. At the same time, it bastardized a play on the title of a pretty important paper in Computer Science. At this point though I feel like we're really wasting keystrokes on something silly and off-topic.
runningdogx 16y ago
I don't understand the recent (from the last few years to a decade) intertubes hatred of "weasel words". Sometimes* they are used to purposefully obfuscate or render a questionable argument virtually* unassailable. Sometimes* they are used to express a complex reality that is not black and white. Most* real-world issues are shades of grey on top of shades of grey, mixed with some cause-effect loops, and turtles all the way down.

I like how "Arrays Considered Somewhat Harmful" becomes "Arrays are Harmful." Do away with those weasel words to make your title more catchy! (not link-baity, no no).

jonpaul 16y ago

As the submitter and not the author, I stand nothing to gain by sharing the article. But, I see your point. I was thinking that when he mentioned not having a model where a mutable collection with fixed size made sense; thus, it translated to me to "arrays are harmful." I then considered "somewhat" to be pointless.

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abraham 16y ago
Other then karma.
jbri 16y ago
Except that by removing the "considered" word, you also removed the shoutout back to the goto article.

bugsy 16y ago

Or "Arrays have disadvantages in .NET." Arrays are useful in many languages. I like C arrays quite a bit and will return a huge amount of data with a single allocation. Allocations are expensive.

gsivil 16y ago

What worries me more is that a purely "meta" comment becomes the most upvoted one.

hugh3 16y ago
What worries me is that I just upvoted your metameta comment.

jordan0day 16y ago

For computer science folks, "Considered Harmful" actually makes the title more catchy, not less. That phrase has a long history (relatively speaking) in the discipline. Maybe you're being sarcastic/making a joke and I'm just not getting it?

cosgroveb 16y ago
Excellent point. It goes back to Djikstra's "Go To Statement Considered Harmful." I was just pointing out that changing the title from "... Considered Somewhat Harmful" to "Arrays are Harmful" is just linkbaiting the title. At the same time, it bastardized a play on the title of a pretty important paper in Computer Science. At this point though I feel like we're really wasting keystrokes on something silly and off-topic.

runningdogx 16y ago

I don't understand the recent (from the last few years to a decade) intertubes hatred of "weasel words". Sometimes* they are used to purposefully obfuscate or render a questionable argument virtually* unassailable. Sometimes* they are used to express a complex reality that is not black and white. Most* real-world issues are shades of grey on top of shades of grey, mixed with some cause-effect loops, and turtles all the way down.