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Yep. You just nailed my latest hiring experience. I moved on triumphantly from my previous programming job where I built a company's product from Greenfield to

Yep. You just nailed my latest hiring experience. I moved on triumphantly from my previous programming job where I built a company's product from Greenfield to million a month with awesome performance and features. Other start-ups in my area are offering me 5-10k more than I was making at my last job to do the same thing again. My counter offer from a large company was 50k higher for a laid back environment. Guess which opportunity I took. Hilarious to me. One lead engineer is worth three junior engineer at least. I see startups doing the same thing over and over again. Hiring Junior developers fresh out of boot camp who are completely worthless, and refusing to spend money on high quality candidates who are interested.

NeverFade 7y ago
> One lead engineer is worth three junior engineer at least. Far more, I'd say. Fresh graduates and juniors are often held to almost no production bars at all. In many startups, you could be a junior for a year, accomplish very little, yet be in no danger of failing any performance metrics. Before I left the startup world behind, I observed that seniors were often held responsible to 95% of the production that was happening at their startup. You'd expect them to be paid x10-20 times as much as juniors, but instead it's typically no more than x1.3-1.4. So as a senior engineer with a track record of shipped projects, I get to work harder than all juniors, be held to x20 their performance metrics, and for that I get 30% better pay? No wonder every single senior engineer I know has a "FAANG or bust" attitude nowadays.