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So somewhat unique experience. I'm a designer. I code. React and css mostly. I do use Vim which I guess is weird for a designer. I love Fish. I'm likely not th

by snide 7y ago

So somewhat unique experience. I'm a designer. I code. React and css mostly. I do use Vim which I guess is weird for a designer. I love Fish. I'm likely not their target audience. I've been using it for years. Since the early days in 1.x land for sure. The homepage has never changed and I still laugh at the tagline. I find it's auto-completion, history and niceties indispensable. I'm the person who asks you what the command is to rerun the tests. With Fish I never have to ask you again. I just remember part of it, and suddenly I've got it. I find its scripting language much simpler to follow than bash. I don't have a lot of scripts, but the ones I do are easy to manage. The only hiccup I get into is when I have to look up something on stack exchange, and of course the example is in Bash. These days though, with Bass and fisherman and so many other tools, i have options. Years ago I would explain to other code friendly designers, I'm weird, don't use this stuff. Go grab zsh. Lately though it's gotten very friendly. Really the only downside for a light scripter like myself is that need to convert bash examples to fish problem. Beyond that I feel it's actually a much nicer shell for new to terminal folks. Anyways, just an anecdote to add to the pile. Thank you to the devs that have supported it over the years.

Aloha 7y ago
fish is my preferred interactive shell (I have window 0 on screen set to be fish), I still write all the scripting I do in bash, because I know it's probably already installed out of the box. Until you raised this point I didn't think if fish as something you'd script with.
- L0stLink 7y ago
  I really love the syntax and performance of fish shell, I had a few bash scripts that were used to manage the system volume notifications and power/battery information, as I use fish as my interactive shell, I ported them over to fish and tried to compare the performance, and to my surprise the fish variant was faster. I decided to rewrite the random wallpaper script for sway in fish too and it runs much faster then the original python snippet I got from swaywm's issues[0] (link to original python script[1]): #!/usr/bin/env fish swaymsg 'output "*" background ~/Pictures/Wallpaper/'(ls ~/Pictures/Wallpaper | shuf -n 1)' fill' I really love fish shell and find its multi-line input extremely valuable, I think it has a much saner syntax (I have no meaningful experience writing bash scripts), if you are like me in this regard I highly recommend writing your personal scripts in fish instead and if you are worried about posix compliance, it is not that different from a bash script with bashisms in that regard. [0] https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1269#issuecomment-431671096 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1269#issuecomment-4316... [1] https://git.sr.ht/%7Esircmpwn/dotfiles/tree/master/bin/wallpaper https://git.sr.ht/%7Esircmpwn/dotfiles/tree/master/bin/wallp...
manaskarekar 7y ago
> With Fish I never have to ask you again. I just remember part of it, and suddenly I've got it. Are you referring to something other than cycling through history? In bash, hit `Ctrl+R`, then type whatever part of the command to cycle through history. You may choose to adjust the size of the history file in `.bashrc` as needed. A good reference: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-bash-history-commands-and-expansions-on-a-linux-vps https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-...
- toxik 7y ago
  Fish autocompletes history
- AnthonBerg 7y ago
  The Fish interface for this is much more convenient and elegant and ergonomic.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - dickeytk 7y ago
    yeah agreed. If you have trouble understanding how it could be better just install fish and try it for 5 minutes and you'll see what we mean. There are attempts to emulate some of it in zsh, but it's still not as good as what fish comes with out of the box. [1] https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions [2] https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-history-substring-search https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-history-substring-search
    - enriquto 7y ago
      oh my god, i tried it and my terminal turned into a christmas tree! How can people actually work with such kitsch colors?
      - AnthonBerg 7y ago

by snide 7y ago

Aloha 7y ago

fish is my preferred interactive shell (I have window 0 on screen set to be fish), I still write all the scripting I do in bash, because I know it's probably already installed out of the box. Until you raised this point I didn't think if fish as something you'd script with.

L0stLink 7y ago
I really love the syntax and performance of fish shell, I had a few bash scripts that were used to manage the system volume notifications and power/battery information, as I use fish as my interactive shell, I ported them over to fish and tried to compare the performance, and to my surprise the fish variant was faster. I decided to rewrite the random wallpaper script for sway in fish too and it runs much faster then the original python snippet I got from swaywm's issues[0] (link to original python script[1]): #!/usr/bin/env fish swaymsg 'output "*" background ~/Pictures/Wallpaper/'(ls ~/Pictures/Wallpaper | shuf -n 1)' fill' I really love fish shell and find its multi-line input extremely valuable, I think it has a much saner syntax (I have no meaningful experience writing bash scripts), if you are like me in this regard I highly recommend writing your personal scripts in fish instead and if you are worried about posix compliance, it is not that different from a bash script with bashisms in that regard. [0] https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1269#issuecomment-431671096 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1269#issuecomment-4316... [1] https://git.sr.ht/%7Esircmpwn/dotfiles/tree/master/bin/wallpaper https://git.sr.ht/%7Esircmpwn/dotfiles/tree/master/bin/wallp...

manaskarekar 7y ago

> With Fish I never have to ask you again. I just remember part of it, and suddenly I've got it. Are you referring to something other than cycling through history? In bash, hit `Ctrl+R`, then type whatever part of the command to cycle through history. You may choose to adjust the size of the history file in `.bashrc` as needed. A good reference: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-bash-history-commands-and-expansions-on-a-linux-vps https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-...

toxik 7y ago
Fish autocompletes history
AnthonBerg 7y ago
The Fish interface for this is much more convenient and elegant and ergonomic.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- dickeytk 7y ago
  yeah agreed. If you have trouble understanding how it could be better just install fish and try it for 5 minutes and you'll see what we mean. There are attempts to emulate some of it in zsh, but it's still not as good as what fish comes with out of the box. [1] https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions [2] https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-history-substring-search https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-history-substring-search
  - enriquto 7y ago
    oh my god, i tried it and my terminal turned into a christmas tree! How can people actually work with such kitsch colors?
    - AnthonBerg 7y ago