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While I agree with you in that CUPS is solid, and his printer issues are elsewhere--Guess what's used for mac printing?--the "no innovation elsewhere" is a bit

by sudont 16y ago

While I agree with you in that CUPS is solid, and his printer issues are elsewhere--Guess what's used for mac printing?--the "no innovation elsewhere" is a bit misleading. The interface on a Mac is settling down because it really doesn't need any tweaking. Most of the extra stuff now is just churn (the hideous widget placement on the App Store for one). Instead, the work is going into simplifying workflows: the twitterization of everything. Time-Machine for one-click backups, AirTunes for OTA plug-and-play. Hell, even the TZ selector now integrates skyhook so it's generally correct, NAT withstanding. That type of ideology carries over to dealing with Word files. Is it really necessary to dick around with CrossOver or WINE's bottling, when the end goal he stated is not to? Some is infinitely more than none to a pedant.

bryanlarsen 16y ago
"The interface on a Mac is settling down because it really doesn't need any tweaking" And yet there are others in this thread whose primary reason to stay away from OS X is that window management on Linux is so much superior. It's not my primary reason, but it is certainly a factor. "dick around with CrossOver's bottling". Umm, CrossOver is a pretty much a click to install and forget-about-it operation. That's why you pay for CrossOver rather than dicking around with wine. Me I really appreciate the fact that every crappy Windows application I install is completely sandboxed away from each other.
- nailer 16y ago
  As a Crossover customer, you should know CodeWeavers have a very specific list of things that don't work for each version of MS Office when running under CrossOver.
  - bryanlarsen 16y ago
    Sure, but I've never needed any of them. Of course, it helps that I'm not running Office 2007 yet.
- sudont 16y ago
  I looked at the other reasons in here. And they were all about configurability, which is completely anathema to what the OP is talking about. "Just works" does not mean, "just have to configure what's out of the box to my preference" Another interesting answer was about emacs bindings in all applications. Since the OP said the majority of his workflow was in Word, I highly doubt this is relevant. "so much superior" That's an opinion.
  - bryanlarsen 16y ago
    For me the killer feature is having multiple workspaces, in combination with ktimetracker keeping track of how much time is spent on each workspace for billing purposes. Each task gets it's own workspace and can stay live for months. "Just works" is not incompatible with "being able to customize to my preference". As long you have sane defaults (which Ubuntu does), and as long as customization is not difficult (which it shouldn't be for somebody who's been using Linux for 17 years), the ability to customize is definitely Linux's major feature. Which is more useful to people who use their computers for more than reading Word documents, granted.

by sudont 16y ago

bryanlarsen 16y ago

"The interface on a Mac is settling down because it really doesn't need any tweaking" And yet there are others in this thread whose primary reason to stay away from OS X is that window management on Linux is so much superior. It's not my primary reason, but it is certainly a factor. "dick around with CrossOver's bottling". Umm, CrossOver is a pretty much a click to install and forget-about-it operation. That's why you pay for CrossOver rather than dicking around with wine. Me I really appreciate the fact that every crappy Windows application I install is completely sandboxed away from each other.

nailer 16y ago
As a Crossover customer, you should know CodeWeavers have a very specific list of things that don't work for each version of MS Office when running under CrossOver.
- bryanlarsen 16y ago
  Sure, but I've never needed any of them. Of course, it helps that I'm not running Office 2007 yet.
sudont 16y ago
I looked at the other reasons in here. And they were all about configurability, which is completely anathema to what the OP is talking about. "Just works" does not mean, "just have to configure what's out of the box to my preference" Another interesting answer was about emacs bindings in all applications. Since the OP said the majority of his workflow was in Word, I highly doubt this is relevant. "so much superior" That's an opinion.
- bryanlarsen 16y ago
  For me the killer feature is having multiple workspaces, in combination with ktimetracker keeping track of how much time is spent on each workspace for billing purposes. Each task gets it's own workspace and can stay live for months. "Just works" is not incompatible with "being able to customize to my preference". As long you have sane defaults (which Ubuntu does), and as long as customization is not difficult (which it shouldn't be for somebody who's been using Linux for 17 years), the ability to customize is definitely Linux's major feature. Which is more useful to people who use their computers for more than reading Word documents, granted.