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> ...unlike, say, New York City or Detroit, whose residents found out the hard way that lots of their power comes from Canada. Interesting that this myth is st

• hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
  Just a request: if you intend to directly refute another's comment by posting sources, posting a 238 page document without a specific page reference isn't really helpful.
  • DKnoll 7y ago
    Refer to the summary of causes on page 17, as seen in the table of contents.
    • mminer237 7y ago
      Here's a direct link to that page: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/oeprod/DocumentsandMedia/BlackoutFinal-Web.pdf#page=25 https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/oeprod/DocumentsandM...
  • dmak 7y ago
    It's called burying the opponent in papers. I watch Suits, so I know how this works.
    • DKnoll 7y ago
      I wouldn't call sending truckloads of boxes of paperwork during discovery to opposing counsel and linking a 238-page PDF with a good ToC and summary equivalent, but I guess the internet has robbed a lot of people of basic research skills.
      • infecto 7y ago
        You must be fun to work with.
        • DKnoll 7y ago
          “But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
          • exikyut 7y ago
            (HTTG: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/40705-but-the-plans-were-on-display-on-display-i-eventually https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/40705-but-the-plans-were-on...)
        • dang 7y ago
          Personal attacks aren't allowed here, no matter how wrong or annoying another comment is. Would you please review the site guidelines and follow them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
          • DKnoll 7y ago
            In regards to 'wrong or annoying,' was there something I could have done or said better, Dan?
            • dang 7y ago
              That's a stock phrase that I use to acknowledge that internet comments can land in all sorts of ways with readers, depending on their prior experiences and what's going on in the moment: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20annoying&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... It doesn't imply that the GP comment was wrong or annoying—only that if it was, it's still not ok to break the site guidelines. When I read your GP comment, though, I can see how some people would find it provocative, because it sort of follows an internet snark template: "<mild factual observation>, but <sudden putdown>". Not saying you intended it that way! But intent doesn't affect much, unfortunately. If your comment had stopped before the "but" clause, it would have been just fine.
• masonic 7y ago
  Nowhere does that say that Bush blamed Canada at any time, nor can I find examples through 3 pages of search. (I found "Schumer blames Bush" but nothing the other direction.) Perhaps you confuse Petaki with Bush? He blamed Ontario at one point.
  • DKnoll 7y ago
    I remember it from news reports at the time. I can't find any documentation now, so it easily could have been Petaki. I can't find a transcript or video of Bush's address to the nation on the day of the blackout though.
    • kitteh 7y ago
      Initial rumors were a trip at Niagra Falls on the Canadian side. I believe Petaki spread that rumor.