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I have 4 ISPS in my area, including Comcast. It's been the same for the last couple of years and I've moved around to different areas. How much of the infrast

I have 4 ISPS in my area, including Comcast. It's been the same for the last couple of years and I've moved around to different areas. How much of the infrastructure did companies like Comcast fund? They should get a check from the government, if they become public utilities and they funded it.

deogeo 7y ago
They already got several checks from the government, and failed to provide anything in return (except for lobbying money to stifle municipal broadband): https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6c5e97/eli5_how_were_isps_able_to_pocket_the_200_billion/ https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6c5e97/e...
- bernierocks 7y ago
  This article is referencing fiber. It's also disingenuous (and just factually incorrect) to say there is 'nothing' in return. https://www.highspeedinternet.com/providers/fiber https://www.highspeedinternet.com/providers/fiber Multiple companies offering Fiber in many parts of the US. There are also multiple options (Comcast, Wow, AT&T, Time Warner, bell atlantic, satellite, and many wireless options) in most areas of the US, which by definition means there isn't a monopoly. Many people throw out the 'monopoly' label and really have no idea what the word means.
  - deogeo 7y ago
    > It's also disingenuous (and just factually incorrect) to say there is 'nothing' in return. They literally did not fulfill their contractual obligations, but thanks to lobbying, were forgiven.
    - bernierocks 7y ago
      Do you have proof that no fiber cable was laid down in any part of the US?
      - deogeo 7y ago
        I have proof that much less fiber than was paid for was laid down. I've linked it before, here's a few different links if you can't be bothered to click on the previous one: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5839394 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5... https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Takes-Billions-in-FCC-Subsidies-For-Broadband-Expansion-134949 https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Takes-Billions-in-FC...

deogeo 7y ago

They already got several checks from the government, and failed to provide anything in return (except for lobbying money to stifle municipal broadband): https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6c5e97/eli5_how_were_isps_able_to_pocket_the_200_billion/ https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6c5e97/e...

bernierocks 7y ago
This article is referencing fiber. It's also disingenuous (and just factually incorrect) to say there is 'nothing' in return. https://www.highspeedinternet.com/providers/fiber https://www.highspeedinternet.com/providers/fiber Multiple companies offering Fiber in many parts of the US. There are also multiple options (Comcast, Wow, AT&T, Time Warner, bell atlantic, satellite, and many wireless options) in most areas of the US, which by definition means there isn't a monopoly. Many people throw out the 'monopoly' label and really have no idea what the word means.
- deogeo 7y ago
  > It's also disingenuous (and just factually incorrect) to say there is 'nothing' in return. They literally did not fulfill their contractual obligations, but thanks to lobbying, were forgiven.
  - bernierocks 7y ago
    Do you have proof that no fiber cable was laid down in any part of the US?
    - deogeo 7y ago
      I have proof that much less fiber than was paid for was laid down. I've linked it before, here's a few different links if you can't be bothered to click on the previous one: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5839394 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5... https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Takes-Billions-in-FCC-Subsidies-For-Broadband-Expansion-134949 https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Takes-Billions-in-FC...