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I strongly agree on Office/Excel. Fantastic product suite (except maybe Outlook which is long in the tooth/essentially unimproved for the last ten years). Visu

I strongly agree on Office/Excel. Fantastic product suite (except maybe Outlook which is long in the tooth/essentially unimproved for the last ten years). Visual Studio I'll slightly disagree on. I resent it. When VSCode, an electron application, can run lag/stutter/micro-freeze free and Visual Studio an IDE written in C++ cannot you know the codebase has become unmaintainable. This isn't a recent phenomenon either. This has been a nuisance in VS 2015, 17, and now 19 (16.4 Preview). I'd love to switch to VSCode but the csprojec/C# support isn't there yet. I don't need a forms builder, server explorer, EDMX designer, test explorer, and all the other bells and whistles VS offers. I use VS strictly to write code (C# MVC/Web), run, and repeat. The refactoring tools/Intellisense/IntelliCode/QuickFixes are awesome but if I could trade them all for a lag free experience I would in a second. I'm using a i7 (6th gen)/16 GB of RAM/SSD. I have no extensions except the built-in ones and Web Compiler/Bundler & Minifier. It doesn't help.

JohnFen 7y ago
> Visual Studio I'll slightly disagree on. I resent it. I agree. Visual Studio has a tendency to make me actively angry.
- minedwiz 7y ago
  What, you don't like your editor freezing when it tries to look up a symbol?
- umvi 7y ago
  Like when you double click a .cpp file intending to take a quick look in Notepad, and your whole computer grinds to a halt as it fires up VS
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
I'm also not a fan of VS. From my perspective it is an overly complicated bloated software. But I think that way about quite a lot of software. However, the developers I've spoken with who love it tell me that it has some insanely good tooling that is just unmatched by anything else. I'm not even in a position to know what they're talking about or why it's so important to them, but that doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.
- user5994461 7y ago
  For one, it has the only decent C++ debugger in existence.
kirse 7y ago
Do you have AV interfering with any intermediate files, etc? I know for MVC/ASP.NET once I blacklisted the overbearing AV scans on a few of those directories all my woes disappeared. For whatever reason I have the opposite experience, VScode input lag is painful at times and VSPro is minimal. As you know once you master an IDE, keyboard shortcuts and common keywords are typically being entered at 200wpm+ in bursts and its quite noticeable. Initial startup is definitely poor for both. > I don't need a forms builder, server explorer, EDMX designer, test explorer, and all the other bells and whistles VS offers. Same. CodeLens gets immediately disabled. Makes me wonder if there would be a way to hack up a stripped down "VS Lite".
jtms 7y ago
Rider is really nice for c# - runs quite a bit better than vs

JohnFen 7y ago

> Visual Studio I'll slightly disagree on. I resent it. I agree. Visual Studio has a tendency to make me actively angry.

minedwiz 7y ago
What, you don't like your editor freezing when it tries to look up a symbol?
umvi 7y ago
Like when you double click a .cpp file intending to take a quick look in Notepad, and your whole computer grinds to a halt as it fires up VS

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

I'm also not a fan of VS. From my perspective it is an overly complicated bloated software. But I think that way about quite a lot of software. However, the developers I've spoken with who love it tell me that it has some insanely good tooling that is just unmatched by anything else. I'm not even in a position to know what they're talking about or why it's so important to them, but that doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.

user5994461 7y ago
For one, it has the only decent C++ debugger in existence.

kirse 7y ago

Do you have AV interfering with any intermediate files, etc? I know for MVC/ASP.NET once I blacklisted the overbearing AV scans on a few of those directories all my woes disappeared. For whatever reason I have the opposite experience, VScode input lag is painful at times and VSPro is minimal. As you know once you master an IDE, keyboard shortcuts and common keywords are typically being entered at 200wpm+ in bursts and its quite noticeable. Initial startup is definitely poor for both. > I don't need a forms builder, server explorer, EDMX designer, test explorer, and all the other bells and whistles VS offers. Same. CodeLens gets immediately disabled. Makes me wonder if there would be a way to hack up a stripped down "VS Lite".

jtms 7y ago

Rider is really nice for c# - runs quite a bit better than vs