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All good plans can be executed badly, the devil is always in the details : D I was not proposing the above example as a foolproof plan applicable to every sit

by ep103 7y ago

All good plans can be executed badly, the devil is always in the details : D I was not proposing the above example as a foolproof plan applicable to every situation, so much as an example of a type of plan that has worked in some scenarios in the past. I should also point out that part of the plan for the Scandinavian plan wasn't the replacement of government workers with locals, as much as the expectation that by moving so many jobs into such small areas, they were guaranteed to majorly shift the local economies. Numerous jobs opened up overnight supporting all these well paid government employees moving into the area. Nonetheless, I am happy to learn about the counter-example, thank you!

distances 7y ago
It would be nice if you could name the country and bureaucracy of the success story. I know of one such move; the experts made it known they'd rather resign and find new jobs than move to the periphery with their families. The move was cancelled as it was pointless without the experts.
- CharlesColeman 7y ago
  > It would be nice if you could name the country and bureaucracy of the success story. I know of one such move; the experts made it known they'd rather resign and find new jobs than move to the periphery with their families. The move was cancelled as it was pointless without the experts. It would be nice if you could name the failure you cite, too. Government experts will live in a lot of places. NASA has major operations in a metro area in Alabama with only ~500k people, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center. That's more periphery than center, in my mind.
  - distances 7y ago
    > It would be nice if you could name the failure you cite, too. Sorry, should of course named it as that's what I was asking. It was the move of the Finnish Medicines Agency from Helsinki to Kuopio. Checking the latest status, they do now have presence in both cities so it wasn't cancelled in the end; I guess they pushed on but ended keeping the Helsinki office for the experts refusing to relocate. Do you have the name of your example?

by ep103 7y ago

distances 7y ago

It would be nice if you could name the country and bureaucracy of the success story. I know of one such move; the experts made it known they'd rather resign and find new jobs than move to the periphery with their families. The move was cancelled as it was pointless without the experts.

CharlesColeman 7y ago
> It would be nice if you could name the country and bureaucracy of the success story. I know of one such move; the experts made it known they'd rather resign and find new jobs than move to the periphery with their families. The move was cancelled as it was pointless without the experts. It would be nice if you could name the failure you cite, too. Government experts will live in a lot of places. NASA has major operations in a metro area in Alabama with only ~500k people, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center. That's more periphery than center, in my mind.
- distances 7y ago
  > It would be nice if you could name the failure you cite, too. Sorry, should of course named it as that's what I was asking. It was the move of the Finnish Medicines Agency from Helsinki to Kuopio. Checking the latest status, they do now have presence in both cities so it wasn't cancelled in the end; I guess they pushed on but ended keeping the Helsinki office for the experts refusing to relocate. Do you have the name of your example?