6 ms·
Leave poor “beautiful” out of it! It’s innocent! Apple’s shit is beautiful because it is simple and functional, not the other way round. I think the issue is n
by nothis 7y ago
Leave poor “beautiful” out of it! It’s innocent! Apple’s shit is beautiful because it is simple and functional, not the other way round.
I think the issue is now that their products become weirdly tacky looking from being functionally weird. The notch, the Touch Bar, the overladen gesture menus... it’s all kinda aimless and floaty. Let’s not even go into how they turned a MacBook workspace into dongle central.
- rdiddly 7y agoYour first paragraph was precisely my point! But I guess now you're saying they've strayed from the beauty part recently too. I admit I don't know much about it, as I haven't used Apple stuff lately. (No particular reason on my part, just that the industry I'm in tends to keep pulling me toward Windows.)
- spectogarb 7y agoIt's more simple than functional.
- Aperocky 7y agoI cannot for the love of my life understand why apple put a touchbar there. If someone regularly uses them, please share your experience. My next personal laptop will definitely not be a MacBook at this rate.
- dmix 7y agoI'm curious if Apple has some data that people secretly like the touchbar (I've never come across someone who uses it for anything). Beyond just being fancy-looking when you're in the Apple store comparing laptops... which I think is the whole point and makes you question the priorities of Apple's recent leader. I wouldn't even care about the Touchbar if they left the rest of the keyboard alone, but apparently the escape key was seen as an unimportant key.
- rktdno 7y agoI miss the escape key. I also like that volume and brightness are both sliders—I find the gesture of tapping the volume on the Touch Bar and dragging my finger up or down in the direction I want better than pressing a button a bunch of times until I’m at my desired volume. There are other things I like about it (and others I don’t). I think it’s ok to like aspects of the Touch Bar and dislike others—it is possible to iterate to something better by being specific in one’s critique about what is good and what isn’t rather than just tossing the whole thing out (which is personally what I’d like to see...and maybe I’m in the vocal minority here).
- BigJono 7y agoI'm curious too. Anecdotally, I've never seen anyone use it for anything (I work in an office where Macbooks are standard issue). I think when I first got it I dicked around with it for 5 minutes, changing the colour of my terminal using the hue slider, and it was cool, but I haven't used it since. It just feels like a sales gimmick that serves no real purpose except to look fancy in an ad.
- Aperocky 7y agoAs a heavy vim user, I can’t live without escape key. One Of the fast way to alienate an entire userbase. I know people sometimes map cap lock but my brain is not conditioned to bimodal action and I don’t want to be tied to a certain specific keyboard layout, not to mention the pain to overwrite muscle memory.
- threeseed 7y agoSo the escape key is there on the Touchbar. It is always the same size. It never moves. It is always there. And because the keyboard is already pretty thin the difference in feedback isn't that significant.
- leppr 7y agoIf it's always there, why not just shorten the touchbar slightly and put a physical key instead to get that sweet haptic feedback?
- eecc 7y agoI'm considering coasting back to a Thinkpad for a while and check if they manage to un-fuck the MBP next year. I'm fine if they just re-print the old sacred & holy Unibody with recent hardware, X62 style. Perfection cannot be improved.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoYep, I had an iMac stolen recently. Guess what I bought with the insurance money: A PC laptop.
- threeseed 7y agoI love the touchbar. You just need to customise it using something like BetterTouchTool which allow you to execute sequences of actions or invoke menu items.
- wingerlang 7y agoI quite literally only used the function keys for volume and brightness. The touchbar has sliders for them so it makes it quite a bit nicer to use in my opinion. The ESC key isn't that big of a deal to me, it can still be used while touch typing. I have maybe one miss per month or so.
- BigJono 7y agoI'm with you on everything else (I'll be the first to admit that I love trashing Apple at every opportunity I get these days), but I find it weird that people criticize the dongle thing so heavily. Surely standardizing everything to USB-C would be an example of the exact thing you're talking about? (keeping it simple and functional). Somebody has to make the switch first, and if Apple didn't, wouldn't we all be using dongles anyway, just the other way round? I'm happy to cop a bit of temporary pain in the pursuit of standardization. It's the one thing that actually isn't shitting me about my work Macbook.
- cco 7y agoWhere is the USB C on my iphone? Why do I need a dongle to connect my brand new I phone to my brand new MacBook? Why do the headphones that came with my iPhone not work in my MacBook? Why does my magic mouse not charge via USB C? My keyboard? It has been years now, why hasn't this happened within the company? Shouldn't Tim Cook be banging a pot and pan outside every team's door asking why they haven't gotten with the program?
- d-sc 7y agoI have a brand new iPhone and the cable that is included with the phone connects directly to my 2019 MacBook Pro.
- nojvek 7y agoI made a decision. I’m gonna upgrade my iPhone when Apple makes usb-c iPhone rather than lightning socket. It’s really double spreak on their end. I don’t give a shit about the new fancy features. I just want Apple to simplify the gajillion cables and converters I need to carry around.