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> That's enough with sealed phones... People want IP ratings. What same people don't understand is that most phone makers tell you it is not permanent. And sa

> That's enough with sealed phones... People want IP ratings. What same people don't understand is that most phone makers tell you it is not permanent. And same people also don't understand that IP ratings are not ratings of waterproof-ness (which, by definition, would not need a rating).

phkahler 7y ago
With wireless charging we are nearing the possibility of a waterproof, sealed phone. Not sure how you'd turn it on. Glass front and back bonded together could get there. Touch screen. Camera inside the glass?
- gpm 7y ago
  > Not sure how you'd turn it on I'm not sure that it needs to fully turn off, many of our electronics don't have that ability. As long as it has power it could run in a super-low-energy mode that just keeps a capacitive sensor going.
  - stcredzero 7y ago
    I'm reminded of the episode of Max Headroom, where the boss was poking around in someone's apartment and noticed something on the TV: "An off switch? She could get 20 years for that!"
catalogia 7y ago
I don't see why being water resistant needs to be mutually exclusive with replaceable batteries and sd cards. My S5 has survived being dropped in water, and it has both a replaceable battery and sd card. Maybe other phones can go deeper and longer, but I'm not scuba diving with the damn thing. When I drop it in water, I fish it out right away...
- dgzl 7y ago
  My S7 was fantastic at resisting water until the glass earned some cracks.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > I don't see why being water resistant needs to be mutually exclusive with replaceable batteries and sd cards. They aren't mutually exclusive at all. You can even have a real headphone jack and maintain a high degree of waterproofing. I think eliminating the ability for people to replace batteries and use SD cards has more to do with saving manufacturing costs and encouraging people to replace their phones more frequently.

phkahler 7y ago

With wireless charging we are nearing the possibility of a waterproof, sealed phone. Not sure how you'd turn it on. Glass front and back bonded together could get there. Touch screen. Camera inside the glass?

gpm 7y ago
> Not sure how you'd turn it on I'm not sure that it needs to fully turn off, many of our electronics don't have that ability. As long as it has power it could run in a super-low-energy mode that just keeps a capacitive sensor going.
- stcredzero 7y ago
  I'm reminded of the episode of Max Headroom, where the boss was poking around in someone's apartment and noticed something on the TV: "An off switch? She could get 20 years for that!"

catalogia 7y ago

I don't see why being water resistant needs to be mutually exclusive with replaceable batteries and sd cards. My S5 has survived being dropped in water, and it has both a replaceable battery and sd card. Maybe other phones can go deeper and longer, but I'm not scuba diving with the damn thing. When I drop it in water, I fish it out right away...

dgzl 7y ago
My S7 was fantastic at resisting water until the glass earned some cracks.
JohnFen 7y ago
> I don't see why being water resistant needs to be mutually exclusive with replaceable batteries and sd cards. They aren't mutually exclusive at all. You can even have a real headphone jack and maintain a high degree of waterproofing. I think eliminating the ability for people to replace batteries and use SD cards has more to do with saving manufacturing costs and encouraging people to replace their phones more frequently.