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Or the "shake to undo" in Notes on iOS that is totally undiscoverable. Also, three fingers gestures, 4 key keyboard shortcuts and ton of UI that changes when al

Or the "shake to undo" in Notes on iOS that is totally undiscoverable. Also, three fingers gestures, 4 key keyboard shortcuts and ton of UI that changes when alt is pressed, Apple OS are actually harder to use than Windows in some respect.

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
Shake to undo applies to all text boxes on iOS. But I don't blame you if you didn't know that, I only knew about it from the iPhone OS 3(?) keynote that introduced it!
- tasogare 7y ago
  Well, I actually learnt about it years ago then forgot it. So, not only its impossible to find, it’s also easy to forget because no visual clues remind it.
- bosie 7y ago
  Can you turn this off? I am asking because using an iPhone unlocked while cycling is activating this great feature regularly.
  - Jtsummers 7y ago
    Go to Settings, scroll to the very top (beyond what shows as the top when you first open it). There's a search field (this is in a lot of other "list" styled interfaces like contacts as well). Type "undo" into the field. It'll bring up the location in settings to disable "shake to undo". It's under the Accessibility settings if you want to just browse around for it.
    - bosie 7y ago
      Awesome, thank you very much
  - couchand 7y ago
    I'm gonna be the jerk who says you really shouldn't be using your phone while cycling.
    - bosie 7y ago
      navigation/gps? workout app? whats the difference between a workout app on my iphone compared to a dedicated device (e.g. garmin edge) in terms of safety?
      - scubbo 7y ago
        You shouldn't be actively using, interacting with, and providing manual input to your device (be it a phone, garmin edge, or anything else) while cycling. An occasional glance at a navigation app (on a screen that is held by something other than your hand - a clip, stand, etc.) is probably fine - but taking your hand off a handlebar long enough to hold a device, and taking your concentration off your path long enough to interact with it, is asking for trouble.
        bosie 7y ago
        quite a few assumptions here. a) the shaking feature turns on even if i don't type anything just by the virtue of the phone being active (shaking can mean 'undo', not just 'undo typing') b) i have it mounted on a quadlock on my handle bar, no holding whatsoever. c) i take the risk of asking for trouble while cycling on a cycling path with no other cyclists near me (within, say, 300m). I am not cycling between 2 double decker buses while texting...
        alain94040 7y ago
        I'll grant you a) and b), but not the last one: take the risk of asking for trouble while cycling on a cycling path with no other cyclists near me (within, say, 300m). You don't know. If you start looking at your screen and you are moving, you are a danger to others. I don't care what happens to you, but I care that you don't hurt others. And you may.
clairity 7y ago
windows generally had better default keyboard shortcuts than macOS, because many multi-key shortcuts could still be done one-handed (e.g., mash 2 keys with thumb), and shortcuts were better grouped somehow. the specifics escape me now, but i still miss the higher efficiency of windows shortcuts (which i haven't used regularly in over 10 years).

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago

Shake to undo applies to all text boxes on iOS. But I don't blame you if you didn't know that, I only knew about it from the iPhone OS 3(?) keynote that introduced it!

tasogare 7y ago
Well, I actually learnt about it years ago then forgot it. So, not only its impossible to find, it’s also easy to forget because no visual clues remind it.
bosie 7y ago
Can you turn this off? I am asking because using an iPhone unlocked while cycling is activating this great feature regularly.
- Jtsummers 7y ago
  Go to Settings, scroll to the very top (beyond what shows as the top when you first open it). There's a search field (this is in a lot of other "list" styled interfaces like contacts as well). Type "undo" into the field. It'll bring up the location in settings to disable "shake to undo". It's under the Accessibility settings if you want to just browse around for it.
  - bosie 7y ago
    Awesome, thank you very much
- couchand 7y ago
  I'm gonna be the jerk who says you really shouldn't be using your phone while cycling.
  - bosie 7y ago
    navigation/gps? workout app? whats the difference between a workout app on my iphone compared to a dedicated device (e.g. garmin edge) in terms of safety?
    - scubbo 7y ago
      You shouldn't be actively using, interacting with, and providing manual input to your device (be it a phone, garmin edge, or anything else) while cycling. An occasional glance at a navigation app (on a screen that is held by something other than your hand - a clip, stand, etc.) is probably fine - but taking your hand off a handlebar long enough to hold a device, and taking your concentration off your path long enough to interact with it, is asking for trouble.
      - bosie 7y ago
        quite a few assumptions here. a) the shaking feature turns on even if i don't type anything just by the virtue of the phone being active (shaking can mean 'undo', not just 'undo typing') b) i have it mounted on a quadlock on my handle bar, no holding whatsoever. c) i take the risk of asking for trouble while cycling on a cycling path with no other cyclists near me (within, say, 300m). I am not cycling between 2 double decker buses while texting...
        alain94040 7y ago
        I'll grant you a) and b), but not the last one: take the risk of asking for trouble while cycling on a cycling path with no other cyclists near me (within, say, 300m). You don't know. If you start looking at your screen and you are moving, you are a danger to others. I don't care what happens to you, but I care that you don't hurt others. And you may.

clairity 7y ago

windows generally had better default keyboard shortcuts than macOS, because many multi-key shortcuts could still be done one-handed (e.g., mash 2 keys with thumb), and shortcuts were better grouped somehow. the specifics escape me now, but i still miss the higher efficiency of windows shortcuts (which i haven't used regularly in over 10 years).